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 Adam
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Kr55 wrote on Wed, 27 July 2022 09:19 |
| Dragon_Matt wrote on Wed, 27 July 2022 08:43 |
I don't even believe Barrie is overpaid. Simply that Bouchard is younger and has more offensive upside. If Bouchard didn't pass him this past season, Barrie would be a top 4 Dman and our PP QB, making him worth his contract. We should be presenting him to other teams as a very reasonably priced player with 3 more years who's cap hit more than offsets taking Foegle as part of the deal.
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Barrie should be very tradable now.
Trading guys before their value will very predictably plummet because of lack of opportunity...that's the trick.
And clearly our team balance is off as we struggle to sign our forwards because of lack of cap space. I think Yams and McLeod showed they have a lot of potential for this team. And would be wonderful to be able to get a ringer like Kessel on a bargain deal if we were able to shed Barrie and Foegele.
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I think even Foegele should have some marketability, especially if we aren't looking for much of a return for him. Flush him for a 6th or 7th round pick, and then sign a league minimum guy with solid possession numbers off the bargain bin late in the summer.
Tyson Barrie is a little harder to replace - as the defence bucket of UFAs is a little lighter. That said, he isn't a great even strength contributor because he's not a strong enough defender to be out on the ice without a lot of help against top competition. He is really a third pairing, weak competition guy, and so if he's not your PP quarterback, then he's not worth his salary.
I expect that the market is more focused on John Klingberg right now as the "free" option for a quarterback, since he's UFA. At the point where he picks his spot and signs, then there should be some teams left as bridesmaids, and maybe one of them antes up a bit for Barrie.
The one other thing that the Oilers should be working very diligently on this summer is getting Bouchard an extension. He scored two more points (43) than Barrie this season, despite a tiny fraction of the powerplay time. If he takes even a bit more of that load this year, and continues to take strides forward, he's a 50-60 point defenceman. If he were to be the main guy on the PP? Maybe he's a 70 point player. The team needs to lock down some level of price certainty ahead of that. Ideally, I'd want to sign him before I traded Barrie, because the only thing holding back his value is how little he plays on the PP right now and once Barrie is gone, then he is getting a big, big second deal. Get him to the longest, cheapest deal you can, and then pull the trigger on a Barrie deal. Otherwise (and here I'll loop this back to what the thread is actually about) then there's virtually no chance to re-sign Puljujarvi next year because everything extra is going to re-sign Bouchard if they don't get that done right now.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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