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 Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| Mike wrote on Wed, 27 July 2022 09:52 |
| Dragon_Matt wrote on Wed, 27 July 2022 11:43 |
I don't even believe Barrie is overpaid. Simply that Bouchard is younger and has more offensive upside. If Bouchard didn't pass him this past season, Barrie would be a top 4 Dman and our PP QB, making him worth his contract. We should be presenting him to other teams as a very reasonably priced player with 3 more years who's cap hit more than offsets taking Foegle as part of the deal.
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My take as well.
But then someone mentioned injury - WHAT IF Bouchard gets injured for an extended period? Who runs PP1? Nurse? That's not ideal.
And on the subject of Bouchard - when would he become UFA? I think they should do all they can to extend him right now for at least a few years - whatever his UFA-1 year would be. Or if he wants to sign long term right now, I wouldn't be afraid of doing that either.
Problem is - if Barrie is not here this year, Bouchard very well could explode. Both because of the added gravy PP1 time, and the fact he is a year older coming off what was essentially his rookie season. A season where he put up 43 points, with 35 of those at even strength (good for 14th in the NHL). If Barrie is not here this year, and Bouchard is not extended, he could get VERY expensive by the time summer 2023 rolls around.
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Nurse was fine on the PP though. We actually scored at a higher rate with Nurse on the PP than Barrie the last couple years. Barrie just kept getting that PP time by default because that is supposed to be his thing. Our PP performance the last few years as been basically 100% determined by how on their game McDavid and Drai are.
Our PP can be minimally demanding on a D. Klef did great too when he couldn't even shoot with his shoulder messed up. All the D has to do is not give the puck away and pass side to side and the PP still scored at a high rate and Nurse has actually shown he can do that. IMO Barrie actually started giving pucks away on the PP more and more as the season went on. Bouch actually could add more than Barrie or Nurse with his shot, but we haven't seen that totally incorporated yet.
As for the Bouch. I want him to develop ASAP. We need to win now. I think keeping Barrie just to block out Bouch from developing confidence in his offensive game on the PP would be a bad idea. That could actually be to the determent of the team performance as well. Bouch could well be far more effective on the PP and add a new element to it that would be useful in playoffs. I don't think players are dumb either. Bouch will get PP time at some point, and if it starts to be clear he is the better option and we just keep giving that time to Barrie, it will be apparent to Bouch and his agent what we're doing. That'll come home to roost at negotiation time. If you think you're getting ripped off on opportunity, you're going to keep insisting on short term deals. Nurse gave a clinic on how to keep biding time until the stars finally aligned.
[Updated on: Wed, 27 July 2022 10:15]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
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