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Re: Puljujarvi + Yamamoto File for Arbitration [message #810831 is a reply to message #810830 ]	Tue, 26 July 2022 11:13

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Kr55 wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 11:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 10:49

Kr55 wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 10:34

Adam wrote on Tue, 26 July 2022 09:24

oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 21 July 2022 10:22

https://www.tsn.ca/nhlpa-announces-arbitration-dates-matthew -tkachuk-1.1827815

Arbitration dates are set, Puljujarvi on July 29th and Yamamoto on Aug 7th. We can all speculate what will happen, but it's nice to have a deadline for resolutions to happen rather than having it drag into training camp or into the season.

Just three more days now. Does a trade happen? The prices aren't looking good based on what Seattle paid for Bjorkstrand. Teams are going to look at the Oilers cap situation and think we need to move someone - so they aren't going to do us any favours.

I'd still rather see the team find new homes for Barrie and Foegele, who look more expensive relative to their spot on the depth chart than does Puljujarvi, even at $3MM+.

How is this for a comparison?

D Siegenthaler gets 3.4Mx5. I have never heard of this player before today lol. 27 points in 175 games. 25 years old, 1-13-14 and -5 in 70 games last season.

The catch though, analytics say this guy is a defensive beast.

Check dat shot supression!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYmiwt9WQAIs2qf?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYmiRmCX0AESiYm?format=jpg&name=small

There's your defensive Pulju :) Devils analytics department insisting a long term deal on this guy, the kind of deal many analytics leaning Oilers fans would love to see with Pulju. Except Pulju probably has more offensive upside if he can figure out his shot.

This guy is a defenseman so I am not sure how much of a comparable he is to JP.

Personally, if JP was in the 3.5 yr range on a long term deal, I'd be OK with that. I'd be shocked if he would accept that as I think he feels he's worth a lot more. I am a bit surprised with how many people cover this team there has been absolute crickets about him especially since his Arb case is right away. I guess it's the quiet time for media so maybe that's why.

Different position, but from an analytics perspective, the argument of why they are valuable is the same. When either guy is on the ice, the chances against drop down dramatically and doesn't seem to matter much who they play with.

Would be curious if JP would entertain a 3.5M deal around 5 years. That's a pretty nice payday and would still have some years left to cash in if he does finally break out offensively.

I know in here the Oilers are basically always stupid but with Brad Holland seemingly taking on a bigger role, he's been interviewed and talked about all the people HE wants to hire, he's talked about the moves and what HE values which includes advanced stats, it sure sounds like he's being given a big chunk of the reins and has a pretty big role in the ultimate direction of the team moving forward. So I just wonder if JP would accept that, would the Oilers not take that deal. Like you said, that's more than 3 times what he was making last year so that's a pretty big raise and based on what Brad said, it seems like the recognize and value what JP does which includes all of what the advanced numbers say.

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Puljujarvi + Yamamoto File for Arbitration	By: Skookum Jim on Sun, 17 July 2022 16:38
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