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Re: Puljujarvi + Yamamoto File for Arbitration [message #810778 is a reply to message #810776 ]	Thu, 21 July 2022 14:40

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oilfan94 wrote on Thu, 21 July 2022 12:53

Dragon_Matt wrote on Thu, 21 July 2022 14:40

If you could only keep one of the two, who would it be and why? There seems to be a number of people that want PJ to be moved, but I've heard almost no chatter for Yamamoto being moved, when I see him as clearly the inferior of the two, whether by traditional or advanced stats.

Yamamoto being small doesn't automatically mean he's worse, but if you're a small guy, you have to be better than your competition. You can't be equal, and he's not.
I'd obviously rather move Warren Foegle than either, but that's not the question.

Honestly it's a tough question. When I watch the game, Yamamoto often looks more tenacious, whereas Puljujarvi always looks so awkward and it feels like he just can't finish. I still think that Puljujarvi has a higher ceiling, and some part of me feels like he has just about reached his full potential. So I am kind of in the camp of letting the chips fall where they may. I hope we can keep both for another season so we can see which one takes another step, but I won't get too upset over losing one over the other, since I don't think either one has a huge edge over the other. I guess if we lose both, then I'll be upset at that outcome.

My hot take, the same stuff that Puljujarvi would need to take him to the next level is the same stuff that would make Puljujarvi focus on playing as an Oiler. He needs to commit both to his own game and what ever team he's playing on. Holland strikes me as a guy who will easily look past issues (see Kane) if it benefits the team and the player is willing to commit.

He's not gonna find a better opportunity linemate wise than here unless he ends up on the first line of a rebuild team going nowhere. And if he goes to a competitive team he'll be on the 3rd line there.

I think he could be a 60pt player, but as is he'll probably be 40, 50 max. Which is still pretty good. But not what he could be.

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