 RDOilerfan
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| nullterm wrote on Tue, 22 November 2022 17:45 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 22 November 2022 14:28 |
| inverno76 wrote on Tue, 22 November 2022 15:08 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 22 November 2022 10:41 |
While I think they need to get another dman, I believe the entire team to a man have to change how they play. They HAVE to as a team decide to play team defense. That includes McD, Drai, Nuge, everyone!
If they went out and added that good defending top 4 guy tomorrow, it would help some but they as a team can't just leave their defense and goalie out to dry like they do. They cheat for offense, all of them. They don't pick up guys. Perfect example. 4th goal. Tatar fires a harmless shot, Skinner doesn't handle it well but he was allowed to just skate in right down the middle untouched and fire in the rebound. The defenders were off busy doing things, JP was right there. He didn't pick up the guy who was standing beside him. I am not singling out JP to pick on him, I am just using that as an example because that happened last night. It happens all the time with all the forwards. They need to add a dman but just adding 1 better defending dman isn't going to solve their problems. It's an entire team thing where the players have to decide they will defend all the time. This isn't a this year thing, it's been a thing for YEARS with this group with multiple coaches. Every time Nuge, McD, Drai go down the list of players, throws their head back saying "crap, I forgot to pick up the man again". That's on them. They know what they need to do, they just have to do it every single time and they don't. It's a choice they refuse to make and it's been like that for years. But you can beat your ass all of them don't forget to turn up the ice the moment there is a chance they gain possession. Every time one of McD, Leon, Nuge, etc decide to throw an extremely dangerous cross ice pass to a guy that gets picked off, that's a choice. Yes if it gets completed, it will be on the highlight package if a goal is scored but it's dangerous and costs them goals against when it gets picked off. That's a choice. Until they choose too play better team defense which is something they could do, adding a dman while it's needed, won't solve their problems.
People can go down the list of teams that have won the cup and they do not play the risky style, defense second style of hockey the Oilers players continue to play. Even the Avs who were a more offensive team and yes, they have some good dmen, their forwards don't play the all risk no defense style.
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Not sure when the disconnect from Woodcroft’s initial hiring and now, but the team defence improved last season when the forwards came back and didn’t fly the zone. They looked structured and there was so much talk regarding detail.
It now feels like a Tippett team.
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I don't get it either. It's not like you can single out a player. It's the whole line up. The worst part is they have shown they CAN defend. They were great against Vegas. Even in the first period, the Devils, a team that literally has a game plan to shoot from anywhere, had 5 shots. So what happened!
I am not going to blame the coaches one bit. This is in my opinion on the players 100% because a lack of a commitment to defense has plagued this team for many, many years with multiple coaches and it starts at the top guys. McD, Leon, Nuge, all the supposed leaders of the team, all guys who wear LETTERS, know how to play defense, they just need to do it. Backcheck, pick up your man, stop flying the freaking zone, do it every time. Set the standard that this is how they play. I heard on the radio today that Leon and McD this season are negative when it comes to 5 on 5 goals scored vs allowed. That's is absolutely ridiculous that those 2 with how many points and goals they score at negative players. That should NEVER happen if they gave a crap at all about defense.
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I'm gonna say the biggest hit we took was Keith retiring. Even at the tail end of his elite level career, he was still an veteran Dman helping keep the waters back.
And he was probably telling the other greener defencemen around him what they should and shouldn't be doing. Hearing it from a guy sweating on the same bench, skating the same ice as you with three Standley Cup rings and headed to the HHOF... that'd get my extra attention.
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If you read what some people in here said about him and what certain bloggers said, he was borderline a waste of a jersey so you might get push back on that. Some even made the case Bouchard carried him. I am a fan of Bouchard and think he will be good but I have a hard time buying the way Bouchard is paying that he carried Keith. I think the Oilers miss his presence for sure.
I am also of the opinion that there is a serious mindset issue with many of the Oilers players especially the top guys. I have heard McD say in several interviews this season and others "My job is to score". No no no. Your job is to play great hockey and WIN games. Part of winning games is to score but also defending is part of it, not turning the puck over is part of it, making smart decisions is part of it, not saying out too long on shifts is part of it, getting off to a good start is part of it. In my opinion, there is a BIG difference in that statement and is part of the problem. I think way too many of the top guys, the guys who play the most, have scoring as their #1 priority almost at the point of scoring at all costs. So if there is a low percentage cross ice pass that might be available and if they complete it, it's a break away but has a high percentage of being picked off, they go for it vs skating it up or making the safe play. I think there needs to be a mindset change for the top guys where it's WIN GAMES vs scoring points. Sometimes to win games you have to be sacrifice offense.
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