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Re: 2022/23 Season - Your Transaction Lists [message #812381 is a reply to message #812376 ]	Fri, 07 October 2022 11:33

Skookum Jim
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Adam wrote on Fri, 07 October 2022 08:17

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 06 October 2022 16:36

Kr55 wrote on Thu, 06 October 2022 15:12

Skookum Jim wrote on Thu, 06 October 2022 16:03

Samorukov and Foegle were quote (Woody): "kept off the ice" today at practice.. trade?

Samorukov had a very sold preseason. If anyone was scouting him, I bet his value is as high as it's ever been now.

Would suck to see him go, but if we can get a high quality player back, I think this would be a good instance of selling high on a prospect.

I'd classify high as a regular NHL player.. trading prospects you expect to be NHL regulars rarely brings back sufficient value for that which was lost.. Samy was a force in the OHL.. IMHO he just hasn't had enough continuous high-quality development time so far due to injuries, all the way back to his time in the KHL. I think he'll be a rugged top 4 eventually.

This is the mistake the Oilers always make. We're afraid to bet on which prospects are going to make the jump, and we don't spend a lot of time considering arrival times of prospects and how much space we have.

The LHD space for the Oilers is crowded. Nurse is signed for 8 more years, Kulak for four, Ceci for three, Broberg for two (with team control beyond that). The team also has Murray this year, plus maybe Koekkoek if he overcomes whatever is going on with him. That leaves you Niemelainen and Samorukov - they're both running our of time before we need to decide if they're going to be full-time Oilers or not, and we clearly don't have room for both, and may not even have room for one.

Niemelainen's now played 75 North American pro games over two seasons. Samorukov has played 99 over two seasons. They're both going to have to face waivers soon. This tool suggests Samorukov already needs waivers, based on the fact he played his first pro games in 2017-18:

https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-calculator/dmitri-samoru kov

The Oilers should be looking at what they have with Samorukov, Niemelainen and Broberg and making a bet soon. Which one if going to be the best, when can they be expected to be a regular contributor, and for the two who aren't the one you picked? Then you put them on the trading block and look to maximize return if there's anything you can get for them. Our forward prospect depth isn't great and I'm not a huge believer in any of our goalie prospects either, so having too many LDs means one or two could be converted to give us someone in an area where we're a little weaker or at least where there's a little more time to make a decision on the player.

One thought with Samorukov based on this training camp - I might consider keeping him up (especially if he needs waivers) and sending Broberg to start the season in the AHL. Chances are good with the way the depth chart looks that he's not going to be an every-night player in the NHL anyhow, so give him the confidence. Also, he's the one furthest from waiver eligibility, so there's no risk really to making him spend a little more time on the farm - other than the embarrassment for the GM who picked him ahead of Trevor Zegras, Matthew Boldy and Cole Caufield...

I think Samy's arrival time has been retarded at least a year by injury which has brought him back to Broberg's time slot.. if he'd have been healthier I think we'd have a better idea by now on how he'll turn out as an NHL'er and make the appropriate decisions.. right now his trade value is close to that of an average AHL'er.. but he has NHL potential of a top 4.. potential you don't want to trade for nothing.. his trade value might be low.. but some NHL team might still pluck him off a waiver wire ..

I agree keeping Samy up and sending Broberg down is likely the best move.. if Broberg had stood out more positively during preseason there could be a strong case for keeping him up.. and risk Samy on waivers.. but he's been lacking so far..

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