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Adam wrote on Sun, 05 June 2022 11:17

Kr55 wrote on Sun, 05 June 2022 01:49

Skookum Jim wrote on Sun, 05 June 2022 00:23

Kr55 wrote on Sat, 04 June 2022 22:54

Hey. He played more than Archie usually does and didn't get scored on. So I think it was still an improvement. This team lives or dies purely on the performance of a handful of players though and they are up against some of the best 5 man defense we could possibly face. It's not going well.


I totally agree, he did play well, especially on all those PK's where Avs got skunked.. but what I was getting at was there needed to be a way to get in some more speed and skill .. didn't mind Malone as a upgrade replacement of Archie.. but I would have liked to see Holloway replace someone else up front as well.. more speed, more skill, better shot.. oh well.



I think issue with Hollway is that he has 38 pro games experience. And 26 points in the AHL in those 38 games. And -4. Kid has no clue what he would be in for in NHL playoffs. That would be a new low of desperation I think to toss him out there like he's gonna make a difference. More likely he looks completely lost/overwhelmed for a shift or 2 and ends up with 2 minutes of ice time. And lucky if he doesn't get scored on.

With all his injuries issues and barely getting up to speed at the AHL level, I'm thinking Holloway is a long term development project still. He's just here to get a taste of the preparation the players are going through.


I think the lack of pro games is a terrible reason not to put in the best option we have. Last year Zegras and Caufield started their NHL careers in the post season. The Oilers have done it before with the likes of Tikkanen and Buchberger. Patrick Roy won a Conn Smythe before he won a Calder Trophy. Ken Dryden too I believe. There is no magic number of games you have to play before you can do okay in the NHL and really, to replace Archibald or Kassian, Holloway would just have to play seven or eight minutes and not get scored on. If he can add some offence too? Bonus. I mean, you don’t start him off playing McKinnon obviously, but if he is going out against Andrew Cogliano? I think that should be okay.

I like an awful lot of what Woodcroft does, but he’s got to lose his mindset around energy line and the value of grizzled vets (Russell is a worse choice than Broberg too). Play the best players - especially when the team is a little beat up and needs some offence coming from down the lineup. Malone has 32 points in 207 NHL games. He would have surprised himself if he contributed anything last night.

I do hope there’s a rally. I really don’t want to see this team just allow themselves to fade out in a Game 4, especially here in front of these fans. Win this next game and give themselves a chance to play one more. And then try to do it again in Denver. Give yourselves a reason to hold your head high no matter what happens.

Fwiw, I don’t think we will see Koskinen next game. Maybe if he was the goalie we had under contract for next year, but as is, I do expect we will live and die with Smith.

I hope we see a couple better adjustments from Woody, and a little more risk-taking. I think we need the high reward players in the lineup.


Don't think Zegras touched post season ice yet, he got in late in the season and got to freewheel and have fun with other youngins in a failed year for the Ducks. Caufield got to ease in during the regular season before playoffs and was looking much more polished as a prospect.

I don't mean to bash Holloway but just personally not seeing why everyone is so hyped on him yet. He wasn't dominating the AHL. He didn't get to do that much since we drafted him thanks to injuries. Just think it's risky tossing him out there. Maybe if we played him a bit during the season, but this is a pretty tough series where every weakness on our roster is being exposed. He could be another one to add to the list. Although we did keep playing Archie, so it's not like we have been trying that hard to minimize liabilities :) I'll just say, I don't blame Woody too much for not throwing the kid in the deep end. Not sure what is happening behind the scenes either, maybe he just legitimately does not appear ready in how he's working in practices and other stuff.



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