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Adam Messages: 6877
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
6 Cups
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CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 30 May 2022 09:37 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 30 May 2022 08:58 |
Adam wrote on Mon, 30 May 2022 08:39 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 30 May 2022 08:28 |
Adam wrote on Mon, 30 May 2022 08:24 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 30 May 2022 08:05 |
Who's that better goalie that was available?
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Well, we'll never know now, will we?
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Nice cop out.
I don't love Smith but I have a hard time thinking even with his gafs, there was a better goalie available. He's won 8 games, has a 2.70 GA and a .927 with 2 shutouts. Kuemper has a 2.44 and .904. If you are going to spend a 1st, you better make sure the player you bring back is a clear upgrade.
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Smith single-handedly gave the Kings Game 1 and allowed in a goal from a different area code against Calgary. He let in about 7-8 bad goals in the Flames series, but we outscored our problems.
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So what?
Are they not in the conference final? You are happy they made it right or would you prefer them not to make it this far so far, so you can do more I told you so's?
Blows my mind how I see all the time various players still get hated on. They are in the West Finals but players will make many great plays to help them win "YEAH BUT remember ...." I have said it before and I stand by this comment. I think there are fans of this team who if they win the cup, will complain about how they won it, will complain about a trade or a signing or something. Smith is top 5 in save percentage and got them into the Western Final beating out a supposed cup contender in the Flames in 5 "YEAH BUT he gave up that bad goal in game 1 of the Kings and has let in so bad goals."
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Why can't people be happy the team is doing well AND discuss the process of how they got here? What's wrong with trying to figure out if they're actually a good team or if they got a little lucky by facing a bad team that almost beat them and a goalie who historically collapsed? Can they repeat their success against Colorado by outscoring their problems? Maybe. But I have my concerns and since I have to wait a couple days to find out, we might as well talk about it.
It's less about that one bad goal in game whatever and more about figuring out how they somehow won a series despite giving up 20 goals and 3 leads. That series could have easily been 3-2 Calgary after 5, it wasn't but it also wasn't the 5 game blow out some people seem to think it was.
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Exactly.
I love the success. I am really happy that Smith is playing well enough to win, and that Duncan Keith, despite mediocre play, hasn't cost us a game since the LA series. I would be thrilled to see Josh Archibald carrying the Cup around Rogers Place.
But I also want to see enduring success and I think key to that is not drawing any inaccurate conclusions about this team and how it was constructed. I think Holland was potentially getting fired with a first round exit. Making the semi-finals, or even winning a Cup doesn't redeem him. He blundered around, but he happens to have two of the best players on the planet and they're playing ridiculously well right now. Best case scenario, we win the Cup and he immediately retires to go out as a winner - fondly remembered by fans who only see the result and not the flawed process.
I think it makes sense to constantly evaluate and to not get too high on the success to see the things that need changing or to understand what really makes you successful and what holds you back. Case in point - you may have seen lots of people criticizing Josh Archibald on twitter. Old school view is you don't change a winning lineup, but you look at the results when he's on the ice - the Oilers getting outscored 5-0 in less than half a game worth of ice-time versus Calgary - and you realize that he was a tremendous liability in the series, and we were lucky to be able to outscore all his mistakes. Based on that, the coach SHOULD be making a lineup adjustment with Colorado, because there's no guarantee we can score 5 goals a game in the next round, so not ideal to have someone give up a goal every 5 minutes of ice time. That's not hating on the player - that's understanding that the team isn't perfect and that it can be improved.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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