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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Calgary (Game #1) [message #806792 is a reply to message #806783 ]	Thu, 19 May 2022 15:40

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 11:27

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 11:08

Adam wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 10:42

Skoobz wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 09:05

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 19 May 2022 08:43

I thought the Nuge line was horrific. Awful turn over by Nuge, down 2-0 a min in. Nuge was SOFT as it gets and zero battle.

Totally agree. You can't have your 3C lay an egg in a game like this - for me, it was the giveaways that stood out with Nuge last night. He's never going to play especially heavy, but he needs to play smart every night.

Nurse was nowhere near physical enough. He'd be in the battle position in front of the net, but not leaning on guys at all.

The usual suspects showed up and played hard - I thought Kane played his worst game of the playoffs though.

The refs (or maybe the time keeper) screwing up on the coincidentals and letting Turtle out of the box first was a pretty egregious error.

If JW wants to stay 11/7, I'd consider putting in Nemo for Russell. Could use the aggression. If he goes back to 12/6, I think you need to put in Foegele for Archibald. 12th guy? I don't know - Brassard or Holloway.

It's time to get Nuge some real wingers. For some reason, Archibald has been stapled to his side since game 2 or 3 of the last series, and he's been noticeable for laying hits, but that's it. While the Edmonton media guys and the large less sophisticated segment of the fanbase just notice that, he contributes very little in the way of retrieving pucks, advancing pucks or creating scoring chances. We just get dominated when he's on the ice, with the only positives managed are the hits on the forecheck - a forecheck that's never sustained because it never results in turning over pucks.

With Draisaitl hurt, that's the de facto second line, and they're just getting destroyed. I think we need to see a lot less Archibald. Pair Nuge with Hyman or Yamamoto or Puljujarvi or even Holloway - someone who has some ability to take the game to the Flames so that the line isn't constantly playing defence.

I like Derek Ryan's game a little more but is he really someone we want playing that far up the lineup too? Nuge needs help - especially if he's going head to head with the 2nd line for Calgary.

We also need a save. Smith was horrible last night and Koskinen wasn't a lot better. I think they go back to Smith because Koskinen didn't exactly grab the job. I imagine it was nice for the Flames after seeing Oettinger's coming out party in Round 1 to find that shots somehow just slide right through our guys. Those first and third goals - yuck. Third one is a bad giveaway, but it's a fourth liner with a weak shot and it's just straight through.

I do feel like Jay Woodcroft seems to be falling back to more traditional thinking in the playoffs rather than using some of what made him successful in the regular season. I hope that we see that change here and he starts pushing the envelope a little more.

I will say, I am not overly concerned about the PP. The Flames clearly came in prepared to defend against that powerplay. They had a good strategy, but playoffs is about punch and counter-punch, so having seen what they are doing, we should be able to make adjustments to flip the script there again. I don't think we're going to see those guys held off the board much longer.

I still like our odds because we have Connor McDavid and they don't.

So it's Nuge's wingers fault on that second goal? Go watch the play. The wingers aren't involved nor should they be involved.

I am not saying Nuge was the only reason the Oilers lost but there is Exhibit A of a lack of engagement by the Oilers and an unwillingness to play the game hard that is 100% a requirement for the playoffs. When you default to the soft play, you lose every time. A guy who has been on the team for 11 yrs and supposedly is sick of losing as much as Nuge says he is, shouldn't be the one doing that crap. But it's golden boy Nuge who does no wrong so it's someone else's fault of course.

Nuge will always need wingers or a C that can carry play for him if you want offense when he's out there. He's had some very good defensive moments in the playoffs, but he's still waiting for Archibald to make a Drai pass to look good offensively, which will happen once in 2 years. We already used that one up in one of the Kings blowout games :)

Maybe we should be trying Drai on Nuge's wing now and then. Sadly, this lineup becomes very difficult to get things from when Drai can't center his own line now that he can barely skate. DO agree with Adam that a Nuge line is pretty hopeless with Ryan/Archie on his wings. Nuge will never drive 5v5 play. So best case for that line is killing time on the boards in the offensive zone, some pocket picking turnovers that turn into a dump and chase, that kinda stuff. Nuge can be very good 5v5 though when he is getting opportunities to shoot and can get a pass when he's open in a good spot in the offensive zone. That's just never coming with these wingers. All 3 of the guys on his line dump and chase and play is usually dying on the boards in the offensive end.

I am not debating his wingers are the greatest but his wingers do not excuse the horrible defensive play he was solely responsible. Nor does it excuse the complete lack of being engaged as a player. Like I keep saying, he's an 11 yr vet. The hockey in the playoffs is way more intense and way more physical. Guys have to ramp up their games. Guys who never hit, have to hit. You don't have to crush guys all the time but you have to finish your checks. This isn't new this season, this is how it's been for... maybe since hockey was invented. I have no idea but way before I was born and I am 44. Stick checking guys and turning away from your opponent does not work in the playoffs EVER.

This isn't an Oilers things, every single team year after year have to do this. Having Archibald and Ryan on your wings shouldn't stop Nuge from doing that. He's supposedly one of the leaders of the team, one of the guys that sets the standard. That is what I am annoyed about. If a guy who's been in the league as long as Nuge and been an Oiler as long as he has, if he's not willing to do that, why the hell should a guy like McLeod do it? If the best player in the entire world realizes he has to ramp up the intensity and play harder and finish his checks, what excuse does Nuge have?

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