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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Columbus (Game #79) [message #804586 is a reply to message #804585 ]	Tue, 26 April 2022 12:54

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Adam wrote on Tue, 26 April 2022 12:33

Babaganoosh2.0 wrote on Mon, 25 April 2022 20:09

Delusion is great but even in 06 our worst GM ever understood you can't win without a solid number 1. Hence Roloson. We're screwed. Smitty craps the bed in game one. Then we're stuck with Koskinen in game two. He gets lit up then what?

While I love the pessimism and the ability to set the bar very, very low, I have some issue with this. Kevin Lowe isn't the worst GM we've had by a long shot.

Make no mistake, he was objectively bad at his job. He let emotion cloud his judgement constantly. He burnt bridges with just about anyone who left the team. He made some pretty questionable decisions, and he was stuck in the past. All that said, I think he's probably still better than everyone who has come after him. At least he has 2006 on his resume, which some tremendous trades and signings positioning the Oilers for the run. Some believed it was a bit of a fluke given how close the team came to missing the playoffs, but I don't see it that way. They correctly diagnosed that the issues the team was facing was related to weakness on defence and goalie, and unlike our current GM who doesn't think you should "go for it" unless you're a top 5 team in the league, they just addressed those weaknesses through smart trades - basically remaking the roster to add Spacek, Tarnstrom, Samsonov, and Roloson with only Jani Rita, Cory Cross and Marty Reasoner deleted from the roster.

Compare that to the dithering Tambellini, who accomplished nothing outside of a failed (and stupidly leaked) Dany Heatley trade. When it looked like he might have a playoff team for the first (and only) time in his tenure, he decided to really roll the dice and acquire Jerrod Smithson? Naturally we missed the dance. His big signings were virtually all busts - Ben Eager, Darcy Hordichuk, Eric Belanger. Nik Khabibulin might have been his best acquisition through free agency. He wasn't so good at trades either. He traded Cole for Patrick O'Sullivan. He had Colton Teubert as the centrepiece of his Dustin Penner deal (although Klefbom did work out as the secondary piece). He traded Gilbert for Nick Schultz in a one-for-one downgrade. He dealt small prospect Toby Rieder for larger crappier prospect Kale Kessy. He's also embarrassing for how he moved on from coaches - "promoting" Quinn to a special advisor position (with no actual requirement for advising), and telling Renney he needed to write an essay on why he should keep his job if he wanted a shot at a contract extension.

Then there's MacTavish - who's grand plan appears to have been to tell everyone exactly what he wants to do and then just have it magically work out for him. It's shocking that didn't work. From telling the league he intended to move on from both Horcoff and Hemsky and finding that the market then only gave lowballs, to telling everyone who would listen that he was looking for a goalie and didn't like his current one - shattering his confidence. He made Tambellini's approach to coaching changes look brilliant when he fired Krueger via Skype on a call that Krueger thought was going to be about assistant coach candidates. He LOOOOOOVED making trades, making double what anyone else in the NHL had in his first year. Sadly he wasn't any good at that. So many quotable quotes from MacTavish - and so many that didn't age well. "Box checked" about goaltending tandem of Ben Scrivens and Victor Fasth is a good example.

I have to run, so tying this off here, but it's not like the other GMs are going to get less embarrassingly bad!

You're probably right about Lowe. He was better than MacTavish and Tambellini. BUT his tenure was marked by two things: a long slow decline from the very good team Sather built and selling off every future asset he could find for the one successful run. He gets credit for figuring out Pronger was a game changer and I would bet he knew midway through 05-06 it was one and done, but he mismanaged the Oilers for 7 years and was the cause of the decade of darkness that followed.

He was an awful GM.

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