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Oscargasm wrote on Wed, 23 March 2022 22:39

inverno76 wrote on Wed, 23 March 2022 22:17

Blaming Nurse’s contract reeks of Horcoff bashing. Analytics say Nurse is having a great season (with bad games that every player has), but we disregard the underlying numbers. The same fan base that cries for more analytical stats, disregards them when they are pushed to the forefront.

Nurse is marginally overpaid in the current market. Keith is vastly overpaid in a world of salary retention trades. Give me another dman making 500k too much over any dman making 3M too much.

And anyone who thinks Nurse is the worst top 4 dman in the league clearly has had multiple serious head traumas.

5-1-1 in their last seven and 12-6-2 under Woody. 107 point pace. Calm down people. Oilers PTSD is real.


Nurse at his current cap hit is literally no issue. Heck, Nurse’ cap hit with an additional 1.5M isn’t an issue. The issue becomes next season when he’s a 9.25 cap hit for the inconsistency he has brought throughout his career. The issue is him having an inflated salary worsens the team. Sure, you get to keep Darnell Nurse. But you lose a guy like JP, Yamamoto or Kane. Yes, not getting retention on Keith was a brutal mistake and the oilers are going to feel that pain next year still. But guess what, it’s off the books after that. The Oilers will feel the sting of Nurse’ 9.25 cap hit a lot longer than the pinch of Keith’s 5.5.

One more thing. At any point during Keith’s contract where he’s been a 5.5m cap hit, has he, in your view, earned that? Been worthy of a 5.5 cap hit? It came into effect in 2010 btw.

Keith as a 5.5 cap hit at age 38, the way he plays the game (albeit yes, slower than he has in his past) is better than what I very strongly believe Nurse will bring in his game at age 36 when he is still a 9.25 cap hit.

And yes, I have sustained several concussions throughout my life; the worst of which left me hospitalized for weeks in a coma for two days and a brain bleed that had my parents thinking the worst.

Also, Horcoff’s cap hit was 5.5. For those teams he was part of, you can absolutely live with that. Nurse at 9.25 when you’re effectively in a window, or should be in a window, doesn’t set you up for success bc of his inconsistent play.


I’d argue a 2022 9.25M deal cap wise for a top pair dman is better deal than a 2010 5.5M deal cap percentage wise. I’ll give you Keith was undeniably all-world during that time.

The problem going into this season was Koskinen’s inflated deal, Smith’s inflated deal, Kassian’s inflated deal, no retention on Keith, and the dead money sitting in Cap purgatory.

Nurse was overpaid, but he was never going to be re-signed for 7M. When they decided to bridge him, that window closed. That shipped sailed. Like you said in another post. The problem comes from the top, and that’s in the POHO and GM’s. Current and past. Nurse struck at an opportune time. Can’t blame the guy. He’s night in and night out our best defender.

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