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Re: Benson is on waivers [message #801975 is a reply to message #801964 ]	Thu, 17 March 2022 11:13

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Adam wrote on Thu, 17 March 2022 10:44

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 17 March 2022 10:20

Adam wrote on Thu, 17 March 2022 10:04

inverno76 wrote on Thu, 17 March 2022 08:25

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 17 March 2022 08:00

CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 16 March 2022 22:10

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 16 March 2022 15:16

smyth260 wrote on Wed, 16 March 2022 15:10

Ridiculous. Bury Archibald.

Why? Don't you like the Oilers to ice real NHLers?

Nice try pal, Benson was drafted AHEAD of perennial 30 goal scorer, Alex DeBrincat.

Yup. Makes the sting of wasting the pick on Benson hurt just a little more.

It was a mistake at the draft and it's still a mistake today, but if we were going to look at all of missed shots and who was drafted shortly thereafter we would be here all day. The Benson 2nd round class also had Kyrou, Hronek and Carter Hart.

I just clicked a random year on hockeydb. In 2011 we took Musil instead of Kucherov, Karlsson, Nieto, Saad, etc....There are 15 players with over 200 NHL games taken in that 2nd round. For my own sanity I cannot look at any other years. End of the day, Benson is still fighting for his opportunity. Good luck to him.

Worth remembering, at the time of those drafts, the Oilers were talking about how they basically had an extra first round pick, picking at the start of the 2nd. In a way it was even true - today, the picks from 2010-12 would all be 1st rounders.

In 2010 we picked Pitlick (31st OV), 2011 Musil (31st) and 2012 Mitch Moroz (32nd). To be fair, Moroz was the only one that was off the board though, and while that didn't work out, that 2012 draft is so dismal that there's not a lot of guys who you're really heart-broken we didn't get.

And even with Pitlick and Musil, the group closest to them in the draft is all pretty underwhelming. it would be nice to think that we could have been the team that saw Kucherov for the diamond in the rough that he was, but the 58th pick that year (three ahead of the Oilers pick Samu Perhonen). We'd have needed a crystal ball for that one.

I was annoyed at the Benson pick at the time, because it seemed to be picking the Edmonton kid over the guy who had the gaudy numbers and the history with McDavid. I still think that was a big mistake, and likely made in big part because of size. The team still has a fixation with size - I think it's likely to be what makes us give up on Yamamoto for someone inferior but bigger eventually (or this week, who knows!)

I think once he's in the organization though, screwing up that selection isn't a reason to value Brad Malone, Devin Shore and 50% of Nate Archibald over him though, and actually his numbers under Woodcroft are pretty decent.

I do wonder how much Holland is involved in player decisions still. I thought his comment yesterday that the need to get Mike Smith going was ominous.

Benson has been on the roster for the whole season taking up a spot, counting against the cap so no one can blame the GM for not calling him up. The coach who he started his pro career with and has developed him the whole time has been on the bench for the last month. So if there is anyone who would know what Benson can do and what he brings to the roster, it would be Woodcroft. He gave him some games but has decided it's best to not play him as they try to win games. I don't know how much more damning it can get for a player when the guy that has coached you for 4 years thinks it better not to play you.

Hey, if you truly believe the roster is better with Brad Malone, then you can feel free to be wrong.

I am not a professional hockey person, I am a fan who is just going by what the coach is deciding to do. He knows both players because he has coached them for years. It's not a money issue because they literally make the same in salary. It's not a no room on the roster issue because they were both on it. The coach isn't playing him by choice.

He's making league minimum and there is maybe 20ish games left in the year and he's not even signed for next year, he's an RFA. So a team can literally walk away from him next year if they don't like what they see. So what happens if Benson gets passed over by 31 other teams when they can have him for free at next to no cost, does that mean 31 more teams are a bunch of idiots?

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Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 16 March 2022 12:12
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: inverno76 on Wed, 16 March 2022 12:31
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 16 March 2022 12:44
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: mightyreasoner on Wed, 16 March 2022 13:34
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 16 March 2022 14:20
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: mightyreasoner on Wed, 16 March 2022 14:43
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Kr55 on Wed, 16 March 2022 14:44
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: mightyreasoner on Wed, 16 March 2022 14:58
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Adam on Wed, 16 March 2022 15:30
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: benv on Wed, 16 March 2022 15:42
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Adam on Wed, 16 March 2022 15:50
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: smyth260 on Wed, 16 March 2022 15:10
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 16 March 2022 15:16
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: smyth260 on Wed, 16 March 2022 15:21
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 16 March 2022 15:36
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 16 March 2022 22:10
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Kr55 on Thu, 17 March 2022 00:41
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: clutchlikeeberle on Thu, 17 March 2022 06:49
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 17 March 2022 08:51
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 08:00
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: inverno76 on Thu, 17 March 2022 08:25
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Kr55 on Thu, 17 March 2022 08:37
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 08:41
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: inverno76 on Thu, 17 March 2022 08:47
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 09:00
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Adam on Thu, 17 March 2022 10:04
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 10:20
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Adam on Thu, 17 March 2022 10:44
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 11:13
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Adam on Thu, 17 March 2022 11:56
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: sinfulchimp306 on Thu, 17 March 2022 12:34
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Adam on Thu, 17 March 2022 12:49
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 14:26
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: mightyreasoner on Thu, 17 March 2022 14:40
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: benv on Thu, 17 March 2022 15:05
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 15:11
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Skookum Jim on Thu, 17 March 2022 15:32
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 15:36
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: mightyreasoner on Thu, 17 March 2022 16:32
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Adam on Thu, 17 March 2022 15:23
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 14:25
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Adam on Thu, 17 March 2022 15:19
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 17 March 2022 15:27
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: mightyreasoner on Thu, 17 March 2022 16:40
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 18 March 2022 11:33
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: mightyreasoner on Fri, 18 March 2022 16:35
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: CrudeRemarks on Fri, 18 March 2022 16:47
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Adam on Fri, 18 March 2022 17:11
Re: Benson is on waivers	By: Dragon_Matt on Thu, 17 March 2022 15:24

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