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Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone [message #799532 is a reply to message #799529 ]	Thu, 10 February 2022 16:11

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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 15:59

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 15:51

Adam wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:52

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:38

Adam wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:35

Malone is a tweener that Woodcroft would know well. Big body, physical, defensively responsible player that can play center or wing. Wont' score you much but won't cost you anything. If he plays, he would replace:

Turris - Useless who doesn't score, has zero dimension, suspect defensively.
Benson - Useless who doesn't score, has zero dimension, suspect defensively.
Perlini - Might score the odd time, doesn't do much else, suspect defensively.
Ryan - Wins face offs, doesn't score, doesn't do much else, now suspect defensively.
Shore - Plays 2 positions but doesn't score, doesn't do much else, suspect defensively.

There is the guys that make up your extra players and most if not all of your 4th line. I think they could use a guy that isn't afraid to touch someone plus another 1 or 2.

I would consistently play Benson, Perlini, Marody, and probably even Ryan ahead of Brad Malone.

I am totally willing to listen. Tell me what exactly playing those guys will do that's different from what they do now?

Right now their 4th line has a bunch of guys who are either a bit undersized or very undersized like Ryan is. They rarely score. They aren't tough or hard to play against. They don't generate a lot of even scoring chances. They don't forecheck much if at all. They don't hit or get in anyone's face. They are all suspect defensively and for the few that are on the PK, they have been lousy for about 2 months now. So what exactly do they do?

I know what's going to come so I will respond ahead of time. Benson doesn't creates offense because he has 1 assist in 19 games and 13 shots. That's pathetic. He's not physical because 32 hits in 19 games, that's barely 1.5 hits a game. That's not a physical player.

The whole BS idea of you just fill up your team with offensive guys and they will have the puck all the time is the biggest crock. You have to have SOME guys who hit, defend and make life miserable for the other team. That isn't a neanderthal idea. Go look at the make up of some of the better teams in the league.
Vegas
Carrier - big body, doesn't score, hits lots
Kolesar - big body, doesn't score, hits lots.
Roy- Big body, scores some. Not afraid to hit.
Howden - drafted as a skilled guy. Has size, not afraid to hit.
There is 4 out of the 6 bottom 6 guys on their lines that have size and either are big hitters or have an edge. Doesn't even go into the defense.

Tampa:
Maroon - big, mean, hits. Got resigned.
Joseph - OK size, hits, plays dirty at times.
Perry - old, slow, mean, dirty, has physical edge. Having a good year offensively.
Bellemare - OK size, physical, plays with an edge.
Raddish - decent size, has an edge.

Not one of those guys are big scores. Perry used to be and is having a bounce back year but everyone of them has decent size, some really big, every one of them is physical, some even really tough.

So while I am not a lover of Malone ang think they need someone better, I would love to hear how a Tyler Benson or a Cooper Marody matches up against any of those guys. PLayers who make up the bottom 6 of 2 of the best teams in the league.

Why does Tampa play Maroon? It's not because he's gritty, it's because he's the best option they have at that point in the lineup. The guy has always been able to chip in points, and he's better than any other options. If they could add a skilled player who scores more, I am pretty confident they wouldn't have this angst about what happens if he has a hit a game less than Maroon...

They are playing him only because he's "the best option they have" and if they had a better, more skilled player that scores more, you are confident they wouldn't play him! What are you talking about?? Go look up capfirendly. It's a pretty widely used NHL contract site.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/patrick-maroon

There you go, I did you a solid, went right to Maroons page. He's coming off a 2 yr deal where they gave him a NTC and a M-NTC clause the second. They are so DYING to find a replacement for Maroon for add another skilled player that scores more, 2 DAYS AGO, they resigned him to another 2 year deal with A RAISE and have a M-NTC for both years. Boy, that sure sounds like a team who's only playing a guy because they have no choice.

If a Maroon type of guy is so archaic and unneeded, then explain to me why the hell Tampa the current 2 time in a row CUP CHAMPS, would both to sign that guy mid season, AND, give him a raise, AND give him 2 years AND any kind of trade protection. If he has zero value since you are all knowing, explain that to me because if he is just a place holder for better players like you literally said, any remotely intelligent GM wouldn't resign him mid season, they would ride it out and let him go away and replace him with someone better. It's freaking Tampa, not like the majority of the players in the NHL wouldn't love to play there.

Let me guess, the Tampa Bay GM, the guy in charge of creating the back to back cup champs and who's a pretty damn good team this year as well, is an idiot. That's your standard answer. All GM's are dumb and Adam is smart.

On this note, they probably shouldn’t have given him a two year deal. We’ve seen similar mistakes elsewhere and it’s understandable they have some loyalty to the player, but we all know the drop off is steep for that player type

I personally wouldn't have given Maroon a 2 year deal either because he wasn't the fastest guy when he was an Oiler and he will be 34 in April so you usually don't get faster as you age. I would have waited until free agency to see what was out there but clearly they see value in the guy which completely goes against Adam's comment that he's only playing because they don't have a better option and he's a place holder for someone better. That's simply not true according to Tampa's GM because you don't resign him now, you sure don't give him a raise, you don't give him a mutli year deal and you sure as hell don't give him any kind of trade protection if he is some guy the team is just dying to get rid of ASAP for someone better that doesn't have his skill set which is primarily a physical tough guy that has some hands. Adam is flat out wrong.

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Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: smyth260 on Thu, 10 February 2022 12:29
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 12:47
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 10 February 2022 12:49
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:08
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:10
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:24
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:35
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:37
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: inverno76 on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:00
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Kr55 on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:03
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:38
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: mightyreasoner on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:51
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:52
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 15:51
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: CrudeRemarks on Thu, 10 February 2022 15:59
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 16:11
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 16:15
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Iamheretoday on Thu, 10 February 2022 17:18
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Goose on Thu, 10 February 2022 15:05
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 16:06
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: welcometotheOC on Thu, 10 February 2022 16:13
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Goose on Thu, 10 February 2022 18:10
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Kr55 on Thu, 10 February 2022 18:29
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 11 February 2022 08:55
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: welcometotheOC on Fri, 11 February 2022 09:38
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 11 February 2022 10:03
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Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 11 February 2022 10:41
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Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:46
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:25
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