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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:38


I am totally willing to listen. Tell me what exactly playing those guys will do that's different from what they do now?

Right now their 4th line has a bunch of guys who are either a bit undersized or very undersized like Ryan is. They rarely score. They aren't tough or hard to play against. They don't generate a lot of even scoring chances. They don't forecheck much if at all. They don't hit or get in anyone's face. They are all suspect defensively and for the few that are on the PK, they have been lousy for about 2 months now. So what exactly do they do?

I know what's going to come so I will respond ahead of time. Benson doesn't creates offense because he has 1 assist in 19 games and 13 shots. That's pathetic. He's not physical because 32 hits in 19 games, that's barely 1.5 hits a game. That's not a physical player.

The whole BS idea of you just fill up your team with offensive guys and they will have the puck all the time is the biggest crock. You have to have SOME guys who hit, defend and make life miserable for the other team. That isn't a neanderthal idea. Go look at the make up of some of the better teams in the league.
Vegas
Carrier - big body, doesn't score, hits lots
Kolesar - big body, doesn't score, hits lots.
Roy- Big body, scores some. Not afraid to hit.
Howden - drafted as a skilled guy. Has size, not afraid to hit.
There is 4 out of the 6 bottom 6 guys on their lines that have size and either are big hitters or have an edge. Doesn't even go into the defense.

Tampa:
Maroon - big, mean, hits. Got resigned.
Joseph - OK size, hits, plays dirty at times.
Perry - old, slow, mean, dirty, has physical edge. Having a good year offensively.
Bellemare - OK size, physical, plays with an edge.
Raddish - decent size, has an edge.

Not one of those guys are big scores. Perry used to be and is having a bounce back year but everyone of them has decent size, some really big, every one of them is physical, some even really tough.

So while I am not a lover of Malone ang think they need someone better, I would love to hear how a Tyler Benson or a Cooper Marody matches up against any of those guys. PLayers who make up the bottom 6 of 2 of the best teams in the league.



I'm not going to try to paint Benson as some kind of bruiser, but to say that he's not physical or he doesn't hit, just isn't true. From what I've seen he's been pretty consistent in being willing to mix things up and he definitely hits. His biggest problem is that he only gets 8 min a night.

NHL hit stats aren't perfect by any means, but, for what it's worth, he hits at a higher rate than just about everyone you listed. Carrier and Kolesar, guys that you say "hit lots" are at 12.33 and 12.03 hits/60 respectively. Benson is at 11.71. He hits at literally triple the rate of Nicholas Roy, a guy that you say is "not afraid to hit", but Benson is apparently?

https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?report=realtime&report Type=season&seasonFrom=20212022&seasonTo=20212022&am p;gameType=2&position=F&playerPlayedFor=franchise.25 &filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=hitsPer60&page=0& amp;pageSize=50



Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games

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