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Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone [message #799517 is a reply to message #799514 ]	Thu, 10 February 2022 14:52

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:38

Adam wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:37

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:35

Malone is a tweener that Woodcroft would know well. Big body, physical, defensively responsible player that can play center or wing. Wont' score you much but won't cost you anything. If he plays, he would replace:

Turris - Useless who doesn't score, has zero dimension, suspect defensively.
Benson - Useless who doesn't score, has zero dimension, suspect defensively.
Perlini - Might score the odd time, doesn't do much else, suspect defensively.
Ryan - Wins face offs, doesn't score, doesn't do much else, now suspect defensively.
Shore - Plays 2 positions but doesn't score, doesn't do much else, suspect defensively.

There is the guys that make up your extra players and most if not all of your 4th line. I think they could use a guy that isn't afraid to touch someone plus another 1 or 2.

I would consistently play Benson, Perlini, Marody, and probably even Ryan ahead of Brad Malone.

I am totally willing to listen. Tell me what exactly playing those guys will do that's different from what they do now?

Right now their 4th line has a bunch of guys who are either a bit undersized or very undersized like Ryan is. They rarely score. They aren't tough or hard to play against. They don't generate a lot of even scoring chances. They don't forecheck much if at all. They don't hit or get in anyone's face. They are all suspect defensively and for the few that are on the PK, they have been lousy for about 2 months now. So what exactly do they do?

I know what's going to come so I will respond ahead of time. Benson doesn't creates offense because he has 1 assist in 19 games and 13 shots. That's pathetic. He's not physical because 32 hits in 19 games, that's barely 1.5 hits a game. That's not a physical player.

The whole BS idea of you just fill up your team with offensive guys and they will have the puck all the time is the biggest crock. You have to have SOME guys who hit, defend and make life miserable for the other team. That isn't a neanderthal idea. Go look at the make up of some of the better teams in the league.
Vegas
Carrier - big body, doesn't score, hits lots
Kolesar - big body, doesn't score, hits lots.
Roy- Big body, scores some. Not afraid to hit.
Howden - drafted as a skilled guy. Has size, not afraid to hit.
There is 4 out of the 6 bottom 6 guys on their lines that have size and either are big hitters or have an edge. Doesn't even go into the defense.

Tampa:
Maroon - big, mean, hits. Got resigned.
Joseph - OK size, hits, plays dirty at times.
Perry - old, slow, mean, dirty, has physical edge. Having a good year offensively.
Bellemare - OK size, physical, plays with an edge.
Raddish - decent size, has an edge.

Not one of those guys are big scores. Perry used to be and is having a bounce back year but everyone of them has decent size, some really big, every one of them is physical, some even really tough.

So while I am not a lover of Malone ang think they need someone better, I would love to hear how a Tyler Benson or a Cooper Marody matches up against any of those guys. PLayers who make up the bottom 6 of 2 of the best teams in the league.

They are better players. Play your best players always and your team will do better.

The idea that you need a fourth line to do fourth line things is an archaic thing, and honestly, it's kind of stupid.

The real reason for having a fourth line that's less good is that you don't have 4 lines worth of great players, but over time old hockey people have mythologized this and built this idea that you need someone to "set a tone" or that fourth liners need to kill penalties, or be tough, or lay hits.

I imagine this probably began with people over-praising the contributions of the guys at the bottom of the roster because I mean, you want everyone to feel important, but now it's built in to this role player myth, which unfortunately only crappy management believes any more.

Why does Tampa play Maroon? It's not because he's gritty, it's because he's the best option they have at that point in the lineup. The guy has always been able to chip in points, and he's better than any other options. If they could add a skilled player who scores more, I am pretty confident they wouldn't have this angst about what happens if he has a hit a game less than Maroon...

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Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: smyth260 on Thu, 10 February 2022 12:29
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 12:47
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 10 February 2022 12:49
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:08
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:10
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:24
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:35
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:37
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: inverno76 on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:00
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Kr55 on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:03
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:38
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: mightyreasoner on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:51
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:52
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 15:51
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: CrudeRemarks on Thu, 10 February 2022 15:59
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 16:11
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 16:15
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Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Goose on Thu, 10 February 2022 15:05
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 10 February 2022 16:06
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: welcometotheOC on Thu, 10 February 2022 16:13
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Goose on Thu, 10 February 2022 18:10
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Kr55 on Thu, 10 February 2022 18:29
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 11 February 2022 08:55
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: welcometotheOC on Fri, 11 February 2022 09:38
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 11 February 2022 10:03
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Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: RDOilerfan on Fri, 11 February 2022 10:41
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Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 10 February 2022 13:46
Re: Oilers Sign Brad Malone	By: Adam on Thu, 10 February 2022 14:25
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