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Re: Review: Boston @ Edmonton (Game #25) [message #795748 is a reply to message #795741 ]	Fri, 10 December 2021 11:42

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Mike wrote on Fri, 10 December 2021 06:18

This was actually one of our better losses IMO. That might be due to us playing with more urgency once we are down, but overall I thought there were some good efforts all around.

Really liking Niemelainen. Honestly had almost forgotten he was in our system, never expected to see him in any games this year, let alone hold his own. Very encouraging.

I'm still liking Skinner - he gave up a breakaway goal to Brad Marchand, who love him or hate him, is #3 in points in the NHL over the last 5 years, behind only our 2 studs. Then a great shot by DeBrusk on the PP from 10 feet out. And finally a great shot by Grzelcyk who was allowed to walk in to the top of the circle and blast one while Nurse and Coyle were right on top of Skinner. I don't fault him for any of those goals. Sure some other goalies may have stopped one or all of those, but even Vasilevsky or Price might let any of those in, and nobody would call those bad goals.

I get no level of confidence watching Skinner in goal. He plays pretty deep in to my eye, and I think he spills out some ugly rebounds. I think he was saved by good defence on a couple bounces last night - Niemelainen with the big reach on one, McDavid with a deft stick lift on Hall on another. I would love to be proven wrong by him, and I'll fully admit, I'm just using the eye test here, so it's not like that's infallible, but I feel like he relies a lot on reflexes, which isn't my favourite.

As for what's wrong with the team, it's just the chickens coming home to roost. We weren't going to stay near 50% effectiveness on the powerplay and Draisaitl isn't going to score on 30% of his shots this year. At 5v5, we've been good when Draisaitl is on the ice, and amazing when Draisaitl & McDavid are on the ice. McDavid without Draisaitl has been slightly positive. Nugent-Hopkins without the other two is slightly negative, and if those three are off the ice, we've been a complete disaster.

If you're not great at even strength, then eventually it will catch up to you. Your powerplay only gets on the ice for a few minutes a game. We were at the top of the league because we were riding as hot a powerplay as the league has ever seen, but there was no way that was going to last all season. Our 5v5 is middle of the pack, so expect to regress to there.

Now, we should not be middle of the pack at 5v5, but that's indicative of some systemic issues. This team on paper, despite the issues in goal and defence, should be in the top third, and should be at the top of their division - especially with Vegas struggling. That's why I'd be taking some very hard looks at the coaching. If you fail to get production from half your roster consistently, no matter who is in that half of the roster? That's a pretty big issue. In the last full month and a half, there's been 4 goals scored while none of 97, 29, and 93 are on the ice. Puljujarvi scored against Vegas while playing on the third line. Yamamoto scored shorthanded against Chicago, and Cody Ceci scored against the Bruins November 11th. Devin Shore scored on November 3rd - the last time that any of our normal bottom sixers found the net without McDavid or Draisaitl feeding them (and even then, I think Kassian's the only one to score in all that time). Warren Foegele got all the love from the broadcast team last night, but since the start of November, he's got all of 4 assists, has gone -8 and hasn't been much of a factor for good. I like the player and what he brings and I don't think it's that he's forgotten how to play hockey. He's playing 12 minutes a night, so it isn't like he's just cold on the bench all the time either. I think he's playing in a system that doesn't really work - and that's on Dave Tippett.

On defence, Niemelainen does seem like found money though, and Lagesson's stats line has actually been better in his game, so maybe we shouldn't ever be playing Russell or Koekkoek again.

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