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Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16) [message #794675 is a reply to message #794672 ]	Thu, 18 November 2021 13:22

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 18 November 2021 10:59

I know they don't matter to you Adam. You are what, an arm chair GM, know it all fan that does whatever non NHL, non hockey related job you do for a living who posts on a fan site. Those things seem to matter to any coach or former coach you hear talk about the game. Any ex. NHL player who is a commentator or media guy. But what the hell do they know, they only work/played in the NHL while you post from your computer somewhere.

Here's the stat line for Shore and Benson.

Shore: 8 GP, 1g, 2 pts, -3. 5 shots, 10 hits, 5 block shots, 53.7% on faceoffs. Killed penalties on the #4 ranked PK in the NHL. Plays center or wing.

Benson: 5GP 0 pts, -2, 3 shots, 7 hits. No blocks. Only a winger, plays zero special teams.

Now I am just a fan that played some hockey when I was a kid. I watch a lot of hockey on TV and go to as many games as I can. I try to follow stats and read up on things as much as I can or time allows. I have an opinion on a lot of things hockey related and the Oilers but I do nothing hockey related for my job and never will. I like to think that I know some things but I am not so arrogant that I think I know more and am smarter when it comes to what it takes and what is important to be an NHL player and contribute something to go against what people who make a living working in hockey or used to play the game.

With all that being said. With my limited knowledge as a fan and what it takes to be a pro hockey player and contribute in a pro game. When I see a player who has zeros for just about ALL of the stats you can have in a NHL game that I could look up quickly so it basically looks like he almost did nothing on the ice at all to contribute anything to the team winning in 5 games. Then compare them to another player who played similar games and I all kinds of usable stats that would have helped the team make plays and win games, not to mention he plays multiple positions, good on faceoffs and chips in on a really good special teams. I really have a hard time buying in that the team is better off having Shore sit out when healthy in place of Benson.

To be fair, Benson has been throwing hits at a higher rate than Shore this year, he's just played less minutes.

Shore is also averaging 1 PK shift per game (48 seconds), so I don't know that we can give him a ton of credit for the PKs success.

In terms of faceoffs, that does seem to be a plus for Shore, but because he plays so little, he's only averaging about 5 per game and has won 3 more faceoffs than he's lost this season. Again not something that I think is moving the needle in terms of wins and losses.

On the other hand, Shore is a guy that has been on the ice for 20 more goals against than goals for over the past 3 seasons. That is something that moves the needle. He's literally one of the worst players in the league over the past 3 seasons in 5x5 GF%.

I'm not saying that Tyler Benson is the answer. But given his success in the AHL, and the fact that we know the Oilers bottom 6 is not good, I don't see why they wouldn't give him more of a push.

Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games

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Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: OilFans on Thu, 18 November 2021 02:00
Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 18 November 2021 08:17
Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 18 November 2021 08:36
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Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: Adam on Thu, 18 November 2021 10:57
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Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: Adam on Thu, 18 November 2021 11:20
Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 18 November 2021 11:59
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