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Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16) [message #794672 is a reply to message #794670 ]	Thu, 18 November 2021 11:59

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Adam wrote on Thu, 18 November 2021 11:20

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 18 November 2021 11:09

Adam wrote on Thu, 18 November 2021 10:57

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 18 November 2021 10:46

Lines tonight.

Hyman - McD - JP
Nuge - Leon - Yamo
Foegele - McLeod - Kassian
Benson - Sceviour - Turris

Nurse - Barrie
Keith - Ceci
Koekkoek - Bouchard

Skinner

Stauffer saying Ryan isn't on the ice so he might be nicked up.

I am not digging that 4th line at all, I hope to be proven wrong. In my opinion, Benson needs to do something. I don't care if he doesn't get a ton of ice time, get noticed. Even with out injury, I would have Sceviour on the 4th line. He's much better defensively than most of who they have been playing. The Turris experiment can't end any quicker. He just doesn't do anything.

I think when they are healthy, the 4th line will be.
Shore - Ryan - Sceviour

I really hope the team comes out flying.

Any lineup with Shore in it is weaker than otherwise. Sceviour's outperformed the other bottom 6ers.

Doesn't really matter anyhow, none of them are getting over 6 mins tonight...

That's your opinion.

I am no Shore lover but I know he will at least hustle, throw an occasional hit, forecheck a bit, kill penalties, win some faceoffs, can play multiple positions, maybe bring some energy and there is a chance he could score in limited minutes because he did that before. In Benson, I expect nothing. He's just out there to give guys a breather and probably will see zeros for a stat line after tonight.

Things that don't matter:

- hustling
- throw an occasional hit
- forecheck a bit
- bring some energy

Shore has been one of the worst players in the league for the last couple of years. When he's on the ice, the other team tends to dominate. That, you'll be surprised to hear, is bad.

I know they don't matter to you Adam. You are what, an arm chair GM, know it all fan that does whatever non NHL, non hockey related job you do for a living who posts on a fan site. Those things seem to matter to any coach or former coach you hear talk about the game. Any ex. NHL player who is a commentator or media guy. But what the hell do they know, they only work/played in the NHL while you post from your computer somewhere.

Here's the stat line for Shore and Benson.

Shore: 8 GP, 1g, 2 pts, -3. 5 shots, 10 hits, 5 block shots, 53.7% on faceoffs. Killed penalties on the #4 ranked PK in the NHL. Plays center or wing.

Benson: 5GP 0 pts, -2, 3 shots, 7 hits. No blocks. Only a winger, plays zero special teams.

Now I am just a fan that played some hockey when I was a kid. I watch a lot of hockey on TV and go to as many games as I can. I try to follow stats and read up on things as much as I can or time allows. I have an opinion on a lot of things hockey related and the Oilers but I do nothing hockey related for my job and never will. I like to think that I know some things but I am not so arrogant that I think I know more and am smarter when it comes to what it takes and what is important to be an NHL player and contribute something to go against what people who make a living working in hockey or used to play the game.

With all that being said. With my limited knowledge as a fan and what it takes to be a pro hockey player and contribute in a pro game. When I see a player who has zeros for just about ALL of the stats you can have in a NHL game that I could look up quickly so it basically looks like he almost did nothing on the ice at all to contribute anything to the team winning in 5 games. Then compare them to another player who played similar games and I all kinds of usable stats that would have helped the team make plays and win games, not to mention he plays multiple positions, good on faceoffs and chips in on a really good special teams. I really have a hard time buying in that the team is better off having Shore sit out when healthy in place of Benson.

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Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: OilFans on Thu, 18 November 2021 02:00
Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: Oscargasm on Thu, 18 November 2021 08:17
Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 18 November 2021 08:36
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Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 18 November 2021 10:46
Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: Adam on Thu, 18 November 2021 10:57
Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 18 November 2021 11:09
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Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: Adam on Thu, 18 November 2021 11:20
Re: Pregame: Winnipeg @ Edmonton (Game #16)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 18 November 2021 11:59
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