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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| Goose wrote on Tue, 26 October 2021 13:28 |
| Kr55 wrote on Mon, 25 October 2021 17:53 |
I think Foegele was moved for cap reasons from the Canes, so we likely could have got him still for picks/prospects if we were targeting him. I don't think he was that valued by the Canes, they have a team full of these analytics wizard puck hound type guys. Guys that we didn't have many of until this year. Wonder how the Bear trade went down. It may have been Oilers looking for a Bear taker and we just ended up with Foegele as a consequence of who called back. Canes are definitely an obvious team to call since Bear has been great in analytics land.
Given what we knew in the summer, I do get why we felt we needed to keep Barrie. That's because we had no clue what we had with Bouch. It's just an unfortunate sequence of events in the end.
One we could have avoided IMO.
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Ya, the idea that the Oilers needed to move Bear to get a 3rd line winger is nonsensical. A cheap, young, Top 4 RHD is way more valuable than a 3rd line winger, even a good one. Guys like Jared McCann went for next to nothing. That spot could have been filled without moving Bear.
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The team has seemed pretty dense about the opportunities created by the expansion draft. With both the Vegas and Seattle drafts, the Oilers had more spots than they really needed. There are teams who had useful players exposed. If you offered enough of an incentive for them, you could get a guy who was solid. Would just cost you a pick or an exempt player. The other team is still going to lose someone, but if the next person on their list is a Griffin Reinhart, then they should make the trade. I'm not sure our management in either draft was aware they had much of an option.
Honestly, I think they should have been trying to find ways to convince Seattle to take Neal or Koskinen. If they were working out something with Larsson, then maybe you give Larsson and a first to take Neal. The amount of difference that makes to our cap hit is really significant and gives us flexibility rather than killing more cap space for the next 4 years.
As for Bear? I like Foegele, but a guy who's a top 4 defenceman (used to play against Matthews all game last night by the way) is worth more than that. Keep Bear and your right side is set for years - whether you sign Barrie, Ceci or whoever else as the third pairing guy. Losing Jones is not that hard a pill to swallow (even though the trade was still god awful) because you have Broberg and Samorukov as guys who'll be pushing up in to that spot soon. On the right side, we have a dearth of quality prospects. Maybe that doesn't matter since the team felt it needed to commit long-term to both Barrie and Ceci...but it should have mattered, and so the team should have required a real premium return to part with that player.
I still think it's the craziest thing that the same organization that gave up an all-star winger for a stay-at-home right shot defenceman, saying that they just couldn't acquire one any other way, then turns around and gives a right shot defenceman with a higher ceiling away for a third line winger. It's bonkers.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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