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Re: Review: Calgary @ Edmonton (Game #2) [message #793134 is a reply to message #793130 ]	Tue, 19 October 2021 08:53

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inverno76 wrote on Mon, 18 October 2021 22:58

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 18 October 2021 09:50

Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 18 October 2021 09:37

Only 2 games in but so far the Must man, Mr Oscargasm, has been right about Keith-Ceci 😉

I was in agreement with you about Keith & Ceci. I also felt the Oilers defense was better than last year.

The Oilers with their defense was a good team last year. They didn't lose to the Jets because of defense, they lost because Helleybuck played out of his mind and they didn't have any depth scoring.

Keith is an upgrade over anyone they had as their second pairing left shot dman all year.

Ceci - I wasn't 100% sure compared to Larsson as they are different types of dmen but if the league keeps going with the you can't drill a guy in the back like they are supposed too, the effectiveness of Larsson drops off. I also thought with Ceci's better puck moving, more offense and better skating, there was the potential for at worse Ceci- for Larsson was a saw off but could be better.

I see Bouchard as a BIG upgrade over Bear. I had no issue with Bear, I could see him as a solid NHL dman for a lot of years. Not sure if he is a long term top 4 guy, we shall seen. But I think Bouchard moves better, moves the puck better, has more offense than Bear, is better defensively and is bigger which IMO size does matter when you are a dman.

Bear was much more mobile. Bouchard should be the better dman with potentially elite offence, but Bear is going to be a long term top 4 guy. He’s currently getting that ice on a deep Hurricanes blue line roster.

So far I love Foegele up front. If Bouchard keeps trending up, this is probably a good deal for Oil, at this point in their window of opportunity.

Or so I tell myself.

I don't pretend to be an expert on the Canes defense but you say Bear is playing minutes over a deep Canes blue line. Let me know if you think my assessment is off for any of these guys and I am just looking at just the 7 listed on capfriendly. I am also assuming that since Bear is right handed, you think he should be on the right.

Left side:
Slavin - Top pairing guy. Canes best dman.
Skjei - Decent second pairing guy.
Cole - Vet 3rd pairing dman. It says he can play the right side but shoots left. Looks like their version of a bigger Russell.
Smith - Depth dman. They even have him listed as a winger from time to time.

Right side:
Pesce - Good, top 4 right shot dman. The Canes second best dman.
DeAngelo - Young, offensive dman with defensive issues. Has attitude problems which is why the Rangers bought him out. Probably best suited as a 3rd pairing, PP specialist. Needs to be sheltered defensively if he is moved up.
Bear - Undersized dman that does lots of things alright.

So those are the 7 dmen listed on the Canes site. I would assume the coach doesn't want to load up 1 defense pairing with Slavin and Pesce, he prefers to spread out his 2 best dmen. With Slavin who gets norris votes, he's good enough defensively he can elevate his partner.

So Bear beat out DeAngelo assuming you don't expect one of their 3rd pairing left shots to switch sides. I am happy for the guy, I don't mean to come off negative but people are making it almost sound like Bear beat out dman on par with some of the elite dmen in the league. He beat out DeAngelo who is probably in the mold of a Barrie but far, far worse defensively.

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