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Re: Oilers to Require Vaccination / Negative Test [message #791482 is a reply to message #791480 ]	Fri, 27 August 2021 11:00

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Adam wrote on Fri, 27 August 2021 10:14

RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 27 August 2021 08:09

Goose wrote on Thu, 26 August 2021 16:54

PlusOne wrote on Thu, 26 August 2021 14:11

Of course it isn't 100% but I did see a study from the States with vaccine rates by education level and it was definitely higher among the educated.
There is definitely a Venn diagram intersection between low education/intelligence and the believing of the anti-vax theories.

I don't think you're totally wrong, but I think we need to be a bit careful with correlation and causation here. Less educated people are also more likely to be working jobs that pay an hourly wage and don't provide paid sick time or paid time off to get the vaccine.

This isn't a scientific study, and it's from the US, but this survey found that almost 30% of unvaccinated people said they would be more likely to get the vaccine if their employer gave them paid time off to get it.

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/how-employer-actions-could- facilitate-equity-in-covid-19-vaccinations/

Why is it the job of the employer to pay their staff to go get a shot? The US had vaccine WAY before us and had it available at way more places than we did. It took us awhile to get vaccine then a while to have the large clinics then at pharmacies. The US was doing that months before us. People in the US can't book an appointment after work or on a day off or a weekend? We had clinics going 7 days a week and it's not like the government told us when, we got to book our own time.

So in my opinion, blaming your employer for not paying for you to get a shot is just an easy excuse that someone might believe. All the crazy excuses got used up and debunked so they have to come up with one that others might buy. Unless you are working 7 days a week, 20 hours a day, if you put it as a priority, most people can find the 20 mins it takes. Book it in advance, plan for it.

I think that is easier to say though when you're not living hand to mouth. If you're near the poverty line, then leaving for a couple hours to get a shot is not so simple. Some may be worried about geting fired if they take time away to go get the shot too.

And with the healthcare system in the US, they may not have the same options we have for getting the shot.

I think there's definitely people who'll look for any excuse, but I do think it's a legitimate concern. If you need every dollar and if your employer isn't at least flexible on this, then it could be an impediment.

I wasn't saying take time away from work because I understand for some it would be hard to get time off or they can't afford too. What about after you are done work? Weekends, days you have off? I think most grocery stores in the states have a pharmacy in them so book a time when it's your grocery buying day. I assume these people have to go to a store at some point in a month.
I think here (RD) they were running the clinics from 8am to 8 pm for shots 7 days a week. My wife is not a nurse but an AHS worker so when the first clinics came out, there was a call to all AHS workers to pick up shifts. So she did some on a weekends and nights and they were going to 8pm.

The point is, if you make something a priority then most people will find away to do it. In my opinion, for anyone who is not dead set against getting it, if your plan is to get but to get it, every possible thing aligns perfectly in your life, then it won't ever happen because there is always going to be a reason not to do something unless you feel it's really important. If you think it's really important, people find a way.

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