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Goose wrote on Fri, 25 March 2022 11:41 |
inverno76 wrote on Thu, 24 March 2022 20:31 |
Until 2025 where his contract falls to the mean. I’m not a Nurse or Holland apologist, but his contract isn’t going to be bad unless something drastic happens. It’s also very unlikely it’ll ever be a good contract, much less a value contract.
All I am saying he is not the reason Edmonton gets in cap problems.
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PK Subban signed for $9M in 2014. He's still the 6th highest paid defenceman in the NHL. I don't think salaries are going to move as much as you think they will over the term of this contract, nevermind by 2025. I'm not saying that Nurse is going to turn into PK Subban, but I'd say paying him $9.25M when he's 30+ years old has a decent chance of being bad, even without something drastic happening. Aging curves are a real thing.
It's interesting that the consensus seems to be that Nurse is only overpaid by $1M. I think he hit the absolute sweet spot in terms of his deal coming off a career season driven by shooting percentages (personal and on-ice), playing a ton with McDavid, benefiting from Klefbom's injury, and the market for good, not great, defencemen being bonkers last summer. I've said before, I don't think that any of the guys that signed those big deals last year will live up to them, even in the short term.
I think in any other year Nurse is in the $7.5M range, and that's a much more manageable number. And if Klefbom doesn't get hurt and the Oilers aren't forced to play Nurse 26 minutes a night, I think it could have been even less.
This year he's 40th among defencemen in EV points and 23rd in EV goals. Last year he was 4th and 1st respectively. Just impeccable timing.
He's a guy that can log a ton of minutes, but he's not a great defender and unfortunately, as other's have said, he's being paid like an elite, all-situations player, and he just isn't.
Also, I think you all are sleeping on Devon Toews. Makar gets all the praise in Colorado, but I think that guy is up there as one of the best defencemen in the league, and at $4.1M for the next 2 seasons. Dare to dream.
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FWIW I think he’s 2-2.25 overpaid on a good day.
Even if it was just 1M, that 1M may very well be the difference between a can kicker deal for yamo and JP while not having a sniff of a chance of retaining Kane on a 1-2 year deal. Nurse’s deal simply handcuffs the team before it comes into effect. There are other contributing factors to the handcuffing, but it’s what will be a 28 year old dman who has never had consistency in his game making superstar money.
Kass is overpaid for what he consistently brings just as much as Nurse will be next season for the consistency we’ve seen throughout his career so far. The only constant is his lack of hockey smarts in defending. I won’t argue about his offensive numbers. But Nurse isn’t at an age where anyone in their right mind can honesty expect that switch to flip and he becomes a legit top flight consistent dman in the league, it just won’t happen. And that is my biggest gripe with the cap hit.
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