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Goose Messages: 1098
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Location: Vancouver
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RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 06 August 2021 14:50 |
I do not understand why people bring up playing with McD as this kind of negative. Just because you get on the ice with McD, doesn't mean it's an automatic you score. What was Nuge's excuse? He played almost exclusively with McD this year and had a lousy year. Klef played a ton with McD when he was healthy and he didn't score as much. Sure playing with McD will help a player but they still have to be able to do it.
In my opinion, if Nurse hit the open market, he's at least getting what he got, I think more. He's huge, skates like the wind, big, tough, mean, physical. He can play a ton, play on all special teams, scores pts 5 on 5, good defensively. He rushes the puck, has a great shot. THe only area I see where he isn't really good at, is moving the puck but he does move the puck fairly well and it continues to get better every year. He's everything a team wants in a dman. He's a legit #1 dman and if he hit the market, 31 teams would be falling all over themselves to get him.
If they were to lose him, it would be devastating to the team on the ice and more so in the room. They couldn't replace him and what he does for less. You aren't trading for him so they had to sign him. In my opinion, any of Nurse's haters, their dislike has nothing to do with hockey and I will leave it at that.
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The answer is 4.
4 points away from McDavid in almost 500 minutes.
Gregor made the same point on Twitter today and in his article about how not everyone can score with McDavid and I don't buy it. Yes, RNH had a miserable year at 5x5, regardless of who he played with. In the 3 seasons prior to that he scored 2.31 points/60 when playing with McDavid. That would have put him 23rd amongst all forwards over that period with at least 1500 minutes played. That's an elite scoring rate.
https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason =20172018&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&am p;stdoi=std&rate=y&v=t&playerid=8476454
Regardless of who else is out there, McDavid is the most important player when he's on the ice. So I don't buy the idea that we shouldn't put Nurse's 5x5 scoring in context with how much he plays with McDavid. Away from McDavid, Nurse scores at a rate of about 1 point every 4 or 5 games (and yes, part of that is that the rest of the Oilers forwards are a mess). It's okay production, given who else the Oilers have, I just don't think that kind of production is worth $9.25M/year. Nurse is also not a great defender, he never has been. Imo he runs around and chases the puck in the defensive zone and often is out of position. At that cap hit, I would expect the total package.
I agree with you that that's what the market is right now. I said in a previous post, other than Makar and maybe Heiskanen given their ages, I don't think that any of these defencemen (Jones, Werenski, Hamilton) are likely to live up to their contracts over the long term. I think they got crazy money.
And, I don't even disagree that the Oilers didn't have a lot of options. The return that the Blue Jackets got for Seth Jones wouldn't make the Oilers better today. But this contract certainly won't make managing their cap next year any easier with some key pieces they'll need to sign, unless anyone thinks that the 2nd year of Mike Smith's contract is going to work out.
Or it could just be that I'm racist. You decide.
Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games
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