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Adam Messages: 6909
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Location: Edmonton, AB
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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 10 June 2021 12:08 | When you only play 8-10 mins a night some of it being on the PK and you rarely get on the ice for an offensive chance, I would assume generating any kind of offense to offset goals against is pretty hard. Anytime the Oilers got the puck in the other end, McD or Leon were jumping over the boards pretty quickly.
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This part is also worth discussing. I can definitely see this being used as an argument as to why the Oilers depth has such dismal scoring. The best offensive opportunities are being given to McDavid and Draisaitl, so it's harder for the depth guys to manufacture something.
This is a bad argument. One of the most tilted stage teams ever was the Canucks with Vigneault and the Sedins, and still their depth performed well. It helped him be able to tilt so much to the Sedins because he could trust his depth not to just get slaughtered whenever they're out there.
The Oilers are putting up record-setting bad depth the last couple of years. They score way less than any other team's depth both currently and historically. You could blame Tippett's deployment, but it's not like it's close here:
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@Woodguy55
Final 5 team's 5v5 goal share for their bottom 6 this season:
TBY 55.2%
NYI 51.5%
MTL 47.1%
COL 68.1%
VGK 53.2%
EDM 34.8%
Wanting EDM to upgrade their bottom 6 shouldn't be a controversial opinion.
Its not "analytics thinking", its goals and winning thinking.
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And while there's lots of things you can still blame Chiarelli for (Koskinen, for example, although that conveniently omits the part where Nicholson & Lowe allowed him to sign the goalie long-term just moments before firing him), depth scoring is really all Ken Holland:
James Neal - acquired by Holland
Zack Kassian - re-signed by Holland to a long, expensive deal during the hottest streak he's had in his career.
Alex Chiasson - re-signed by Holland just after he arrived
Kyle Turris - signed by Holland
Josh Archibald - signed and then re-signed by Holland
Tyler Ennis - traded for and re-signed by Holland
Dominik Kahun - signed by Holland
Gaetan Haas - signed and re-signed by Holland
Joakim Nygard - signed and re-signed by Holland
Ryan McLeod - drafted by Chiarelli, rookie deal signed by Holland
Devin Shore - signed and then re-signed by Holland
Patrick Russell - re-signed twice by Holland
So he has had an opportunity to make a decision on all these players. This was the depth group that Holland put together and they're a total failure.
And in response to that, he doubled-down on one of the guys who's stats show hes objectively one of the worst of that group.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
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