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Re: Ken Holland Season Ending Press Conference [message #788374 is a reply to message #788373 ]	Mon, 28 June 2021 14:12

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 28 June 2021 14:07

CrudeRemarks wrote on Mon, 28 June 2021 13:29

RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 28 June 2021 09:27

So when I look at the Oilers roster and how the Habs are made up and how in the playoffs as along as penalties aren't called, the Habs can do their thing. Adding Hall to the Oilers I don't think would have done it.

Let's take a look at what we might've done:

Sam Bennett went to the Panthers for forward prospect Emil Heineman and a second-round pick in 2022.

Heineman was a mid-second round pick who hasn't produced much, easy to find a comparable piece. And in spite of the wild spending spree Ken Holland went on last year, when it definitely was the time to sacrifice the future for the present, we have a '22 draft pick available. hindsight shows Bennett needed a change of scenery and would've been a great addition. From a money point of view, ship out Chiasson and someone like Haaaaaas (who has now left for nothing) and you've got the room.

I also would've pursued Mike Hoffman once we struck out on Hall. Kassian+ going the other way with some potential salary retention and he suddenly fits under the cap.

Two rather straightforward moves (since our guy doesn't like thinking outside the box) and the forward depth is noticeably better.

Do you actually think that the Flames would trade Bennett to the Oilers so they could see Bennett taking runs at them 8 -10 times a season for what they got from Florida? I sure don't. Maybe if the Oilers gave them just a crazy good offer that was such a gross overpay they couldn't refuse. Typically you don't see a ton of trade happen in the same division.

What would adding Hoffman do for the Oilers to beat the Habs? The Habs are beating teams by getting insanely good goaltending, playing lock down, give up nothing defense and playing a brutal, nasty, physical style where refs stand there and watch the Habs huge defense beat the hell out of teams.

The Flames traded for Lucic. Nothing is off the table. The fact that a player was traded for a given amount means they were available for approximately that price. Not everyone is Boston with Dougie Hamilton.
Hoffman allows you to move Nuge down and stabilize things. But you're right, this wasn't the year and it was better to make no changes and get swept by the Jets.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you can get a lottery pick.

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