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Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50) [message #783611 is a reply to message #783602 ]	Mon, 26 April 2021 15:17

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RDOilerfan wrote on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:39

Adam wrote on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:33

K.McC#24 wrote on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:10

Adam wrote on Mon, 26 April 2021 13:56

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/gretzky-reflects-mcdavi ds-quest-defy-odds-100-point-season/

Mark Spector article, for anyone who doesn't want to give him the clicks.

Basically, he's saying McDavid's doing Gretzky-like things if he hits 100 in 56 games. Points out that the most points in a 56-game stretch is of course Gretzky - with 153 in both 1983-84 and 84-85. But Gretz brings it back home, pointing out that it's a lot harder to get points these days...

Which brings me back to those games where McDavid basically got benched because he was dummying Ottawa and Calgary earlier in the year. If he finishes with, say, 98 points then it's too bad he got sat in those games.

He'll of course say the right thing - that it's the playoffs that he's concerned about and that it's not that big a deal, because they're moving on to the post-season, but it would be a little too bad if the tendency to call off the dogs costs him that recognition.

Well, that and a total inability for him and Draisaitl to figure out how to put pucks in empty nets...

I just think that those things aren't that big to McDavid. Would look spectacularly stupid had Connor been trotted out and injured by a pus-bag from Calgary in his pursuit of an 11 point night. We all know he's the best player of this generation, and when his career is done, he will be in the top 5/10 all time. This provided some tool doesn't turn his knee into a u-joint or leave him brain injured in a mindless pursuit of a few extra points in a blowout, in a league where the on ice officials, Player Safety don't protect average players let alone the elite of the elite, and doesn't allow fellow players to do it either.

When was the last time you saw anyone gooned late in a blowout game? When was the last time you saw a brawl including top players? This isn't the 1970s or 1980s, and that sort of thing just doesn't happen now.

The bigger issue is coaches having grown up on Coach's Corner with Don Cherry telling people that you should never embarrass your opponent. It leads to people scorning empty netters as if they don't count the same and bad coaching decisions where teams let up.

And then every so often, someone gets torched because a team rallies and the stars are now cold after sitting for half a period, and the wheels fall off.

It's pro sports. Don't like getting blown out? Don't suck.

McDavid in a meaningless game to end the season was chopped down by Gio as he was driving the net, rammed into the goal and blew out 2 ligaments in his knee.

I don't think anyone was expecting someone from the Sens to grab McD and beat the hell out of him when the game was out of hand but I just illustrated a play that could easily happen and DOES happen frequently. McD gets chopped down multiple times a game as he tries to blow by guys. While you can't stop them all, it makes zero sense when the game is totally out of hand to throw him out there just so he can stack the stats even more.

Then why play him at all? it wasn't like he was getting no shifts, just one shift every 8 minutes or so. If you think he needs to be bubble-wrapped then you're probably putting him in more danger sending him out for rare shifts and letting his muscles get cold.

The Giordano play wasn't a blow-out. That was still a close game at that point.

As for the previous question - do I think breaking records matters to McDavid? Yes I do. When you're driven to be the best, you want to leave your mark on the game. Gretzky wanted to set records - he basically memorized the record book and took aim on any he could. The Coffey 8-point game is a great story on that - Gretz knew the record for d-man points in a game and when Coffey had 4 or 5 points in the first period, he set the goal for the team in the first intermission to get Coffey the record.

Lemieux wanted to set records. He sat out the World Juniors to have a shot to beat Guy Lafleur's QMJHL record for goals (he did it too).

The best players want to demonstrate they're the best, so if you have 6 points 32 minutes in to a game and you get four more shifts the rest of the way, it has to be disappointing.

And if it's really injury you're worried about - why is he playing at all? He can get clipped just as easy in those 4 shifts as in any others.

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Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: OilFans on Mon, 26 April 2021 02:00
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Oscargasm on Mon, 26 April 2021 08:59
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Adam on Mon, 26 April 2021 09:14
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Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 26 April 2021 12:07
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: ravb1981 on Mon, 26 April 2021 12:09
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: kungpaobenji27 on Mon, 26 April 2021 12:12
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Adam on Mon, 26 April 2021 13:45
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 26 April 2021 13:57
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: inverno76 on Mon, 26 April 2021 18:39
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Kr55 on Mon, 26 April 2021 12:06
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Adam on Mon, 26 April 2021 13:56
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:01
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Skookum Jim on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:32
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: K.McC#24 on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:10
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Adam on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:33
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:39
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Adam on Mon, 26 April 2021 15:17
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: inverno76 on Mon, 26 April 2021 18:48
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Kr55 on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:30
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:42
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Kr55 on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:46
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Dragon_Matt on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:52
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Kr55 on Mon, 26 April 2021 14:55
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Adam on Mon, 26 April 2021 15:18
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Skookum Jim on Mon, 26 April 2021 15:01
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 26 April 2021 15:25
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Goose on Mon, 26 April 2021 18:07
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: K.McC#24 on Mon, 26 April 2021 17:30
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: RDOilerfan on Mon, 26 April 2021 15:04
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Kr55 on Mon, 26 April 2021 15:08
Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Adam on Mon, 26 April 2021 15:22
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Re: Pregame: Edmonton @ Winnipeg (Game #50)	By: Skookum Jim on Mon, 26 April 2021 15:07
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