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Oscargasm wrote on Tue, 13 April 2021 18:45

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Oscargasm wrote on Mon, 12 April 2021 19:54

Air Canada can get a bailout every time their bottom line takes a massive hit, but the Oilers can’t go for it 2 years in a row bc next years the year.


This summer will tell the tale, max. cap space, lower salary costs due to flat cap.. maybe buy out Neil, unload Turris.

This will define Holland's GM tenure.

Just hope the pro-scouts who figured Kahun, or Turris were good bets no longer have an authoritative voice in the decision process, any pro scout who actually scouted these two last year would have figured out they didn't have it, too slow, too soft.

We have a lot of excellent D prospects coming, maybe as early as next year.
And D. Holloway, likely make it out of camp, #3C or #1/#2 LW.
All on ELC contracts.





I keep hearing of this cap space the oil will have. While I do see it, I also see them having Nuge, Barrie, Larsson being UFA and Yamo RFA. And the need for a starting goalie. That 24’ish of cap is going to disappear real quick with mainly just the current roster in tact.


I question whether the Oilers should re-sign Barrie at the dollars he's going to command for next year. I do think his play is one of the reasons we should be going for it this year, but if the team has any belief in Bouchard, they need him to make the jump sooner rather than later. If the team does not believe he's able to make that step, and they decide to sign Barrie, they should probably be trading him this summer. If you have Barrie long-term in front of him, he's pretty much permanently blocked and his value will only decline. I'm all for having a player pushed to make the team, but if you sign Barrie and especially if you also sign Larsson, then where's the room for him. Are you really going to trade Bear and then duplicate Barrie's skill set on two of the lines, but without giving him powerplay time? Bouchard's numbers in the AHL, in Europe, even in the NHL in small doses look like a guy who should be ready so either you give him an opening, or you trade him and get something else you need.

Starting goalie is a big issue. I'm still worried they're going to look at Smith's results and sign him...possibly before the summer even.

I still think it's crazy that people are still believing the next teenager is going to be the saviour here. Holloway is a kid. He's never played a minute of pro hockey. He's probably not the best option for NHL top-6 action just yet. Let him develop for 5 minutes first and force his way in.

Holland hasn't done well with cap space historically. Some really bad signings in Detroit over the last decade. Once he blows cap space, he doesn't have any idea how to clear it either. This summer is critically important...so here's hoping he's not as much of a dinosaur as he looks now.


I think Larsson is a guy you resign before Nuge or Barrie. We don’t have ‘another Larsson type’ on the right side in the org. Now, obviously it would be nice to have him come in around 2-3M rather than the little over 4 he’s getting now. But, if I’m Larsson, I’m not sure I take that. Sure, flat cap. But he’s 28, he may be viewing this UFA summer as his last chance at a decent bank account padder for retirement back in Sweden. In a perfect world, he wants to stay and takes a bit less to do so. He’s not flashy, but he’s a breed of dman that we don’t have coming up the pipe.

Barrie as an Oiler has been a hit. Let’s be honest. He is what he is and he’s excelled at that in Edmonton. Not great defensively but is an elite puck mover and has helped lift McDavid up even more. He and Nurse, albeit, again, not great defensively, have for the most part created a real offensive threat of 5 man unit when deployed with McDavid’s line. Barrie now is what we all want and hope Bouchard can be.

Bear’s had a bit of an uphill climb this year. Tough break taking a puck to the side of the head while on the bench which knocked him out for a few weeks. But that coincided with Tipp and Co placing Barrie with Nurse, along with Schmiddy returning, leading to the Oilers turnaround this season. He’s had moments again since returning, but is relatively still green when it comes to being an NHL defenceman. Hopefully he can take that step of consistency as he closes into that 200 game mark.

Can Bouchard be Barrie? Sure. He could. Heck, he could be a more defensively responsible form of Barrie. But with the amount of preaching we’ve been force fed lately about ‘next year is the year’ is it smart to put yourself in that position to (hopefully) contend with 2 RHD who are still figuring out how to be NHL defencemen? Yes, Old Man Bouch has excelled at every level so far, but going into next season with Bouchard, Larsson and Bear as your top 3 organizational RHD doesn’t smell of contention. It smells of hope, which is something we’re used to breathing in as Oiler fans (that and MustTM).

Along with that we have Tipp’s desire to have 4 traditional PKer’s dressed on D each night. You’re not getting Barrie and Bouch in the lineup the same night with Tippett, unless one of them is playing their off side, which occurred in Bouchards last game, I believe, leading to incredible fancy stats for the Bouchard-Bear pair, something like 18 chances for and 2 against or something wild, however the 2 chances they gave up ended up in the back of the net.

I agree, Bouchard needs to play and Barrie is the one blocking him, not Bear, as Bear is a PKer in Tipp’s eyes. But given how the window to contend, according to the org, starts next year (should have been opened the second McDavid became an Oiler but that’s for another day), I 100% believe we see Barrie-Larss-Bear as our 3 RHD again next year and Bouchard either getting angry in the A or playing for Boston(heard it here first).


Injuries happen, and then there's always surprises too. Larsson looked done last year; then he's had a bit of a rebirth this year. Bear looked like a stud last year; at times he's struggled this year.

Especially with Bouchard on the ELC, I don't mind having four "Top-6" defensemen in the organization. There's a big drop off to the next RHD in the organization after those four, so it provides a little cover if there is a season ending injury or regression to Larsson's game.



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