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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39) [message #781523 is a reply to message #781520 ]	Tue, 30 March 2021 12:46

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K.McC#24 wrote on Tue, 30 March 2021 12:35

Adam wrote on Tue, 30 March 2021 12:02

stemhovlichski wrote on Tue, 30 March 2021 11:49

RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 30 March 2021 08:56

Did Nuge play? Time to put him with Leon so Leon can get him to score again. Just not happening for him. I guess the nice thing is his price point should be dropping like a rock.

His price point dropping could mean we get substantially less in a trade than we would have if he was having a decent stretch right now. Pragmatically, he's a UFA and we need to get something for him: either a contract renewal in the next 10 days or players who can fill in holes towards contention. He's been soft and floaty for about 6 weeks now after a great start.

We'll see the asset management side of things quickly. If he stays here without a renewal what are the chances he bails for money elsewhere?

I think trading the third highest scoring forward on a team that lacks scoring depth ahead of the playoffs would be a disaster.

If he doesn't sign an extension, then view him as a rental, but you can't trade him. You're just not likely to get back anything other than picks or prospects, because the only ones taking on UFAs-to-be are teams gearing up for their own playoff runs. They won't give you someone with term who can fill the same role.

It would send a terrible message to the team to trade Nuge at a point where the team should only think about adding. If you look at the North Division, it's a winnable division assuming the goaltending holds up.

We could lose Nuge after the season, and that would be a shame - especially if he leaves for no return. But if we trade him and take a weakened squad in to the playoffs, I think that will just upset all our players (and honestly, it should).

Why would the people that think Nuge is a plug be upset with him walking anyway? After all, the league is bristling with free agents who can center 'drive' 2nd lines, 'uplift' 3rd liners, play the PK, PP, or 1/2 LW, probably for less AAV, right? Dollar out, dollar in......easy peasy. I guess we need that near mythical player when arguably the 2nd best center in the league and last year's Hart recipient is playing 1LW.

So is LD a center or a winger? I don't mind him up there in situations, but Tip for games has concentrated all the size of the top 6 on one line with mixed results. I don't know what anyone expected. I don't get Tips aversion to last years 2nd line, because each and every player on that line has been less successful at 5v5 since they went away from it, including LD.

I definitely don't think Nuge is a plug. He's the third most important forward on the team.

It would suck to lose him for nothing, but trading him now for picks or prospects would be worse. None of those are going to play PK or PP or the second line in the playoffs. No one is giving you back a guy to take his place - so what exactly does the team do if they trade him away? Trade the same assets to someone else for an equivalent player who's also likely UFA-to-be and can walk in a few months? I'm not sure how that helps us - they'll have to quarantine, so we lose a week and they may have less chemistry with the team. There's unknowns with an addition, while we know what we have in Nugent-Hopkins.

Trading him should just not be contemplated at all unless there's a miracle deal out there for him where we get an equivalent player with term. No one should make that trade though.

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Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: OilFans on Mon, 29 March 2021 19:30
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: Adam on Mon, 29 March 2021 21:02
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: Adam on Mon, 29 March 2021 23:14
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Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: stemhovlichski on Tue, 30 March 2021 11:49
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: Adam on Tue, 30 March 2021 12:02
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: K.McC#24 on Tue, 30 March 2021 12:35
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: Adam on Tue, 30 March 2021 12:46
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 30 March 2021 12:27
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: K.McC#24 on Tue, 30 March 2021 12:40
Re: Review: Edmonton @ Toronto (Game #39)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 30 March 2021 12:50
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