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Re: Pregame: Ottawa @ Edmonton (Game #28) [message #779259 is a reply to message #779230 ]	Thu, 11 March 2021 18:34

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Kr55 wrote on Thu, 11 March 2021 13:27

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inverno76 wrote on Wed, 10 March 2021 14:03

I feel like we are giving up two pints tonight. Just a gut feeling. I’m keeping my Oilers 4-1 score prediction.

Nah! Draisaitl is due for a breakout performance.

Nuge too. (Who I think it totally capable of carrying a top-2 C role, since he's done it his entire career).

Life has been hard for the Nuge without McDrai.

Since the start of 2015/16:

CF%: 47.4%
FF%: 47.3%
SF%: 47%
GF%: 44.75%
xGF%: 45.6%
OZ faceoff%: 49.11%

Most likely just another line McDrai need to make up for with spectacular play. Nuge off to a rough start with a -2 last game, so many he's due for a goal tonight.

I like the Nuge, out of principle largely. Still think he's a winger. And...maybe his money is better spent on an actual elite winger so we don't have to keep going back to McDrai. Pretty disappointed in Tippett here to be honest. 3 bad games and he just panics and goes full McLellan, and I guess all kinds of conclusions of what can work long term can be made from 3 games vs Ottawa?

McDavid/Draisaitl are absolutely dominant on the ice though. I don't hate seeing it - even if just for a short stretch.

I don't think you can blame Nugent-Hopkins or his line for the -2 last game. First shot should just never go in. No mistakes from anyone but the goalie there...it was a weak shot from far out at a bad angle.

Second one, it's another long shot, and one that tips off Barrie's stick to go in on the far side. Both of those are low percentage plays that just worked out well for Ottawa.

Sucks for the line out there, but those aren't hard-earned minuses.

Yeah hard to blame Nuge in isolation last game. Generally though, he's just not a player that drives much of the play. Has always needed a linemate better than him to consistently make things happen. That responsibility lays with Pulju I guess.

McDrai is definitely fun, but we've seen a lot of it over the year, and it rarely has led to consistent success.

I think Nuge can be fine. Eberle/Pouliot and him were a really solid line other than the final season here. He has been overshadowed a bit by playing with Hall, Draisaitl and McDavid a lot of his career, and I think sometimes he plays a little too conservatively without those others out there (although I think that was by design in the McLellan days - I think only the first line ever had the green light to push).

It would be nice if we had one more high end forward. We've got two elite forwards, and one in that second tier in Nuge. After that, Yamamoto and Puljujarvi are on the next tier down and it's a ways down to the next guy.

One more on the Nuge level would leave a really strong top six.

Eberle could drive play. Nuge...just never has, like, ever. Probably sounds like I'm hating on the Nuge as he's close to leaving, but I've had the same complaint about him for a long time. Nuge is a winger. Best asset is his shot 5v5 ;)

Sorry, almost lost ya after the first sentence, there. Eberle a driver of play, really?

RNH will score more points as a wing on the 1st or 2nd line than as a 2nd line center, and clearly he's not in the same category at center as the Hart recipients. I think the team is better if LD is the 2nd center, but Nuge afforded them the ability to throw LD on the top line to get him going again....mission accomplished I'd say. The 2nd line had 3 or 4 excellent chances last night but didnt score 5v5. I'd be concerned if they were getting no chances and owned, wasn't the case.

Eberle was no defensive dynamo, but he was a smart player that on the scoreboard and looking at scoring chances was able to keep things going in the right direction. Even without playing with someone better than him offensively. He helped Nuge a lot over the years. I don't think it was the other way around. Nuge is a pretty timid offensive player 5v5, he really needs his linemates to create things.

Things are certainly going good vs Ottawa :) But, we've done this all before, for extended periods of time. McDrai are magic together, no doubt. We've had a lot of crap seasons though with McDrai on the top line and hoping the rest of the lineup, with Nuge as the 2nd line C, could not bleed goals when they are resting.

And hey, maybe it's even good enough on average that we still do well in the North Division as a 1 line team. I'm just thinking to ever win it all we will need McDavid and Drai on their own lines, and the longer we go not trying to figure out how to make that work, the harder going back to it will be when we realize a quality opponent is able to shut our team down by stopping 1 line.

I think you're seriously overrating Eberle as a 'driver' of s line and I don't really remember him making lesser players better. To me he was a much more frustrating player to watch than RNH ad an Oiler.

I actually don't mind Nuge deferring to playing defensively, anf I think that's a condition of having that beaten into him through 3 or 4 coaches. I would agree that I would rather see RNH as the best W on the team with the other 2 playing C, than him at 2C.
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Mainly just going by results. Ebs was the guy that was actually able to still keep the ice tilted in our favour away from McDrai until he was traded. Nuge was always needing to be put on a line with someone that could drive offensive play for him. I do appreciate Nuge's effort to be a good defensive player. Still a work in progress, but I think he's still improving. But it still comes at a cost. He's always lagging the play when he played with McDavid. His offense is 1 and done usually 5v5, which is why I think he needs to play with skilled passers that can slow things down in the offensive end. That 1 and done is best off being a Nuge shot from a soft area he's snuck into.

Regardless, I fully expect the McDrai top line to dominate again next game. And never know, maybe Pulju can evolve into a guy that can consistent get the puck moving into the offensive zone and we find a trio that works with Nuge. Still not that confident it's a recipe to be a cup contender though.

Eberle was not a driver, he was passenger...plain and simple

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