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Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement [message #769027 is a reply to message #769024 ]	Fri, 30 October 2020 10:24

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Hibernia wrote on Fri, 30 October 2020 09:46

CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 28 October 2020 17:38

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 28 October 2020 14:05

CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 28 October 2020 13:38

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 28 October 2020 11:37

I completely agree with being in the Hall of Fame as the way your number gets retired. Never letting anyone else use that number again is a big deal. When it comes to K.Lowe, people need to detach any ill will they may have from the current Oilers management and recognize that as a player, he was one of the Oilers true greats. He wouldn't be having his number retired for the last 10 years in management, he'd be retired for what he did as a player. There is a BIG difference.

When it comes to Smyth, I completely agree he should be honored in a ring or wall of honor but not retired. He was a good real player, not a great player. He was a really, really good Oilers, not a great Oiler. The fact that the Oilers weren't a good team in my opinion helped elevate his status. If they were a better team and spent like the top teams back in his time, my guess is he wouldn't have been as big of a star for the Oilers. Just my opinion but when a player like Smyth is looked upon as one of your best players, probably means your team isn't that good which it wasn't.

I would never retire Smyth's number and I would retire Smyth's number a thousand years before Lowe's. I'm still hoping someone at the NHL head office realizes it was a paperwork error and takes back his Hall of Fame admission.

Russell extension means the retirement doesn't happen for two years?

So if I'm following the logic, if Lowe's number is retired, that means the bar is set so that we should all be OK with Smyth's number being retired.

I agree 110% Coincidentally, 110% is also the amount of effort that Smyth gave in every single game he played.

Yes. Put Drake's number up in the rafters too. It doesn't matter anymore if they put Kevin up. Won't matter to me anyways.

Clearly you never watched Kevin Lowe, the player. The fact that you are so willing to dismiss what he did during his playing career says you're only judging him based upon his work as an executive.

I sure did watch Kevin Lowe, the player who scored 0.066 goals per game on the greatest offensive team in history, play hockey. I watched him allow the fastest two goals in playoff history to Pat LaFontaine. I also watched him coach, with a win percentage of .390 and a playoff win percentage of 0.200. That naturally earned him a promotion to General Manager, continuing his amazing habit of achievements he didn't really earn, like getting 6 Cup rings.

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Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Adam on Wed, 28 October 2020 11:03
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Kr55 on Wed, 28 October 2020 11:12
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 28 October 2020 11:37
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 28 October 2020 13:38
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Kr55 on Wed, 28 October 2020 14:05
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 28 October 2020 14:08
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Hibernia on Fri, 30 October 2020 09:46
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Perkele on Fri, 30 October 2020 10:04
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Adam on Fri, 30 October 2020 16:54
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: CrudeRemarks on Fri, 30 October 2020 10:24
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Adam on Wed, 28 October 2020 12:15
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: NetBOG on Wed, 28 October 2020 13:52
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Adam on Wed, 28 October 2020 15:45
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: smyth260 on Wed, 28 October 2020 16:19
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Kr55 on Wed, 28 October 2020 17:50
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Adam on Wed, 28 October 2020 18:00
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Skookum Jim on Fri, 30 October 2020 15:11
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: mightyreasoner on Wed, 28 October 2020 11:39
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 28 October 2020 13:39
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: mightyreasoner on Wed, 28 October 2020 13:46
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 28 October 2020 13:53
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 28 October 2020 13:56
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: mightyreasoner on Wed, 28 October 2020 14:14
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: inverno76 on Wed, 28 October 2020 17:12
Re: Gretzky on Number Retirement	By: Adam on Wed, 28 October 2020 17:45
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