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Re: Tyson Barrie Signs w/ Oilers [message #783337 is a reply to message #783335 ]	Wed, 21 April 2021 15:22

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Adam wrote on Wed, 21 April 2021 15:18

Skoobz wrote on Wed, 21 April 2021 12:12

Adam wrote on Wed, 21 April 2021 11:48

Bouchard is at an age where he needs to be contributing. The Oilers should be keeping an eye on the market value of their players along with the development curve. If the team doesn't think he can be the guy - then they need to trade him while others don't see that yet.

It really seems like they don't think that he can be the guy. Surely, if you thought he could be the guy you would find him ice time. Surely, if you thought he couldn't you would do something to keep his value high, like letting him dominate in the minors.

I can't quite figure out ANY reason to have him languish on the taxi squad all year. ANY.

FWIW, I really like Barrie and hope that he likes playing enough with 97/29 that he would consider taking a moderate haircut on either salary or term to stay here. I'd comfortably give him 5x5, and I would leave Klefbom exposed to Seattle and hope they bite.

I think that the coach likes veterans, and Bouchard isn't veteran enough for him. I think he does look at Jones and Bear as if they're new pros too - although that just isn't the case at this point. Bear has 121 NHL games to his name and another 89 AHL games. Jones has 84 NHL games and 122 AHL games. They're both 23 years old. Those are NHL defencemen. They're maybe not fully formed yet, but after 200+ pro games in your organization, you should have a pretty good idea of what a player is, and where their ceiling is.

Lagesson too by the way. He's 25, has 25 NHL games, 83 AHL games and 63 Swedish league pro games. There should be no mystery with any of these players now for the Oilers and the coach shouldn't be concerned about them as if they're raw rookies.

Bob Stauffer likes to throw out ridiculously high numbers for how many games a defenceman needs to play in the NHL before you know what you have, but that just really isn't so, especially with really good defencemen. Most of them make an impact relatively quickly and at a relatively low age.

Bouchard is at 89 pro games (12 NHL, 54 AHL, 23 Sweden) and probably should be higher if he hadn't sat the bulk of this season. If they know he's not going to be able to take that spot from Barrie - then trade him now. He's got value now. If he is relegated to watching for another year, he's going to have a lot less value. People can believe right now it's just a coach with a thing for veterans and a team in a playoff race for position - that just won't last year after year. At some point if the team never takes the plunge, then people will start to think it's him that's the issue.

What’s Bob’s number, 300 games?

Likely heard it from Lowe or MacT and now it’s gospel. The kids should be sheltered, but given an opportunity to grow. Tipp loves proven NHL talent. That and Patrick Russell.

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Tyson Barrie Signs w/ Oilers	By: Oscargasm on Sat, 10 October 2020 10:56
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