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Adam Messages: 6829
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mightyreasoner wrote on Fri, 16 April 2021 20:40 | I want to see Barrie and Kulikov as a pairing. It seems they have the skillsets to really compliment one another.
For me, Barrie is exactly the player the Oilers signed him to be. Of all the free agent signings, he's been the one that has come exactly as advertised. A guy who can move the puck, play the powerplay, and is a bit of a mess in his own end (thus why I'd like to see him with Kulikov).
He's probably going to put up the best numbers a defenseman has put up on the Oilers since Souray in 2009 (53) and Pronger in 2006 (56), and he's going to do it in a greatly shortened season. I do understand the hesitancy and underlying metrics, but I'm also reluctant to let that just walk away. For all the talk about how anyone could put up those number on the powerplay with McDavid and Draisaitl... that simply hasn't happened. Barrie is producing more.
My concern is that we walk away and spend the next decade looking for a RHD defenseman to man the powerplay and move the puck. Hopefully Bouchard becomes that, but again, too much too fast seems to be an Oilers recipe for disaster.
Anyways, that's all a wordy way to say, it comes down to dollars and term, and maybe it doesn't work, but my preference is for them to find a way to retain him. I have no real issue with all of Bear, Barrie, Larsson, and Bouchard on the team next year if they can make it work, though Larsson's wear and tear and injuries do concern me... he looked bad last year, and not sure which to expect moving forward, last year's Larsson or this year's Larsson.
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So here's my issue with re-signing Tyson Barrie. He's not going to sign the same deal he came here on. He took a team-friendly deal because the market wasn't there for him, especially coming off a tough year with the Leafs. He's likely to finish in the top 5 in defenceman scoring now, and that's going to get him attention as a free agent, especially in a class where there's just not a lot of good offensive defencemen available. The scoring among UFAs-to-be defencemen this year is:
1. Tyson Barrie - 37 points
2. Alec Martinez - 25 points
3. Alex Goligoski - 15 points
4. Cody Ceci - 14 points
5. Jordan Oesterle - 11 points
5. Michael Del Zotto - 11 points
7. Derek Forbort - 10 points
7. Erik Gustafsson - 10 points
9. Jordie Benn - 9 points
9. Mark Staal - 9 points
9. Zdeno Chara - 9 points
Barrie's going to be able to command both term and dollars. If it was a matter of another year while Bouchard has training wheels on, with a plan to give Bouchard third pairing ice time and split the PP time, I could be on board for that, but he's going to get a 5-6 year deal, and that means there's no room for Bouchard at the inn.
I think Bear's ceiling is higher than Larsson's - and that while Larsson hasn't been as bad as he was at the start of the year, the recent pairing with Russell has demonstrated his weakness again - he's not a good puck mover and you don't want him anchoring a pairing. As such, I think it would be a mistake to keep Larsson over Bear in order to advance Bouchard, and if you have Barrie on a five year deal, then you have two pretty similar defencemen in Barrie and Bouchard. If Bouchard passes Barrie - he's a third pairing defenceman who isn't getting the powerplay time, and is getting a big salary.
With Bouchard, I think he is ready based on what we saw this year. His shot metrics and other fancy stats were all really good. He delivered decent points based on a rather small sample size. He was maybe a little sheltered, but he also didn't get the cherry minutes with McDavid and Draisaitl that Barrie has. Big shot, good passer, and at an age where he either makes the jump or he's not good enough to.
As I said before, it's not Barrie and Bouchard, it's Barrie OR Bouchard. If you're signing Barrie to a long-term deal, the team should trade Bouchard this summer for everything you can get for him, because only one of those guys can really fill that role. The team should know if they believe he can be the guy or not now. If he can't, then sucker someone else quick before they figure that out. If he can, then save yourself a boatload of cap space and let Barrie walk.
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