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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:25 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 13:18 |
Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 12:56 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 10:26 |
Goose wrote on Fri, 09 October 2020 11:17 | The cap hit is great. There are better options out there, so I just hope they don't use the money saved here on not getting a better 3C and give Markstrom a stupid contract.
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Who do you think is better?
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For 3C, I think the Oilers need someone that doesn't get them killed in terms of goal differential (with McDavid and Drai, the 3C just needs to be close to even and everything is good). They also should be able to PK so that Nuge and Drai don't have to do it as much. Kyle Turris' 5x5 GF% has not been good the last few years, and that's with Nashville, which is even worse. And he doesn't PK.
Based on that criteria, in terms of FA, I think that Koivu or Soderberg would be better in this spot.
Woodguy went into a deep dive on these players and a bunch more on his blog, which is where I got most of my data from. https://becauseoilers.blogspot.com/
Woodguy also really likes Johann Larsson, but i'm not sure that his last season wasn't just a one off.
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Turris wasn't a fit in Nashville, he was great in Ottawa.
I saw lots of what woodguy said and I can appreciate where he is coming from and the value he puts in all his advanced stats. But Larsson is a left handed center that has scored 10 goals once and this past season had 6 goals and 18 its in 62 games. That' an 8 goal, 24 pt pace. He's 28 so he is what he is. I don't see how that screams 3rd line center.
Koivu is going to be 38 yrs old and is slow and had 4 goals and 21 its last year. I don't see how bringing in a guy that old and slow helps you when you need more speed on your team.
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The issue I see is how you really don't want Turris playing against good players. So, if our intention is that Turris is our 3rd line C, Tippett is locked into needing to ensure McDavid and Drai are always getting the tough defensive assignments. Turris can't kill penalties at all either, so I guess Drai is likely locked in as a full time PKer.
Could have changed the dynamic of this team a bit with a solid 2-way C on the 3rd line, someone that can reliably play some at least even hockey against good players. Turris doesn't really help here.
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I think the Oilers need to get some scoring from the bottom 6. Turris should help with that.
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