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Adam wrote on Thu, 03 December 2020 15:35 |
welcometotheOC wrote on Thu, 03 December 2020 12:23 |
I have to disagree here. I think Koskinen has been excellent at best and mediocre at worst. I don't think he was really bad in the playin (Smith definitely was bad there!), and without SnowAngel on defense, and a healthy Klefbom (he was terrible but now we know injured) the Oilers are at least in the 2nd round of the actual playoffs.
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.889 save percentage, allowing 11 goals in 3 and a half games on 99 shots against including a lot of struggles in handling long shots from the point and controlling rebounds.
19 of those shots (and 18 of his saves) came in game 1 when Smith had already lost the game for the Oilers by the time he took the net, so in the other 3 games, he allowed 10 goals on 80 shots - good for .875 save percentage and ~3.33 GAA (slightly off due to empty nets)
If you look at any NHL goalie you can say they're excellent at best - most have had some good games where they got shutouts, but it's been rare for Koskinen to hold that for any period of time. Worth noting in the article RDOF shared, he played way less games than anyone else in his comparison set.
If the thought is that Koskinen had a mediocre first campaign and a better second campaign so maybe his trajectory is up, I think it's important to remember how old he is. Guys on the wrong end of 30 rarely get better and better. Last year is probably peak performance and he wasn't good enough that the coach had confidence to use him in even half the games, or to start him as the first guy out in the playoffs - and that's despite the fact that most shooter tutors stop more than Mike Smith did last year in both regular season and playoffs.
I think you have to be concerned about netminding if you're an Oilers fan, because there's very little to suggest that this is a tandem that can get us anywhere near a championship.
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You are right, he did play less games. What evidence do you have that he if he played 10 more games like Markstrom that his numbers would have tanked? If you do, please share with me as I would love to see it.
It find it kind of funny, you are big on sample size. So your entire argument is literally off 3 games. He played 34 games last year and had pretty good numbers but in 3 games where the entire team sucked ass, you have decided he's lousy.
Hellebuyck won the vezina this past season. In the play in he played in 4 games and the Jets lost to Calgary. Hellebuck had a 3.04GA and .904% Talbot in that series had a 1.5 GA, 0.943% and 1 shut out.
So Talbot is better than Helleybuch right because in 4 games, he had WAY better numbers?
My guess is that you are going to say that Helleybuck is superior to Talbot. I think Helleybuck is clearly better but I ask you why you would say Helleybuck is better because if you use the Koskinen sample size logic that your argument is using, Talbot should be your answer because the numbers in that play in aren't close.
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By: Adam on Wed, 30 September 2020 10:25 |
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