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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 03 December 2020 09:53

RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 03 December 2020 08:23


So they have add 5 better offensively forwards to help with scoring to start the year. 3 of them weren't with the team at all in the play in, the biggest addition being Turris. I believe you have to have 3 good centers to win. The Oilers has 2 elite centers, 1 4th line center in Sheahan in the 3 hole who was awful in the play in and a bubble NHLer as their 4th.

They are WAY better in my opinion.

I agree it looks like the best offseason in a long time. I think they’re going to leak goals against though. It will be interesting to see if the improved depth scoring out scores the weakened D.

They will leak goals because why? 1 dman in Klefbom is hurt so that means the entire defense is screwed based on 1 guy?

I look at the Oilers defense to start last season:
Klef - Larsson
Nurse -Bear
Russell Benning

So their defense which was good enough to be first or second in their division had 2 guys who were lousy skaters in Larsson and Benning. 3 guys who couldn't move the puck basically at all. Larsson, Russel and Benning could barely make a 15 ft pass on a regular basis. Had 2 guys who were OK at moving the puck in Klefbom and Nurse and 1 guy who could actually pass the puck on a regular basis. If you look at the pairings, the Nurse - Bear pairing was the only pairing that had a good skater and puck mover. Klefbom was an OK skater but not great and an OK puck mover. If he was at all off in his skating or puck moving, that pairing got crushed because Larsson couldn't do anything other than beat on people as long as they didn't skate past him. The entire defense core provided not a lot of offense. The Oilers had a record setting PP and Klefbom could muster 34 pts in 62 games. So 45 pts in 82. So not bad but that's it? What could Barrie have done last season? 60 pts maybe more?

I look at this season and the potential pairings.

Nurse - Bear
Jones - Larsson
Russell - Barrie

So every pair has a really good skating dman - Nurse, Jones, Barrie and Russell is a good skater.
Every pair has a real good puck mover - Bear, Jones, Barrie.
Every pair as a decent defender - Nurse, Larsson, Russell. Russel isn't a world beater but if a person takes there personal feelings about him out especially when it comes to the contract, he defends alright.

What about natural progression in players? Nurse is only 25 and only has 350 games and he seems to get better each year. Dmen typically get better with experience. Unless you think Bear as already peaked, you have to think with experience, he will be at least a little better? Same goes with Jones. I think he's got all the tools to be a real good dman. Barrie is going to improve the Oilers puck moving and skating a lot. The days of the big, nasty, stay at home, can't skate dman are basically gone. Larsson's NHL days are probably numbered. The game has gone to skating and puck moving from the defense. So if the Oilers have a defense that can actually skate the puck out when needed and actually make tape to tape passes vs banging it off the glass, in theory, the less time they are in their zone, the less defending they will have to do. They also improved skill wise at forward. They won't be playing AHLers in the NHL. They won't be playing 4th liners on the 3rd line. So I don't see the Oilers leaking goals, I think they will probably be about the same as last year goals against wise but will improve goals for.



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