mightyreasoner Messages: 508
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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 02 December 2020 14:57 |
mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 02 December 2020 14:40 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 02 December 2020 14:26 |
mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 02 December 2020 14:20 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 02 December 2020 13:08 |
mightyreasoner wrote on Wed, 02 December 2020 12:10 |
K.McC#24 wrote on Wed, 02 December 2020 11:38 |
Kr55 wrote on Tue, 01 December 2020 18:41 | Oilers news!!!!! Wooo!
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/oilers-notebook-whats-n ew-edmontons-players-overseas/
Quote: | No miracle to report on the Oscar Klefbom front, as he tries to decide how best to handle what is believed to be an arthritic shoulder.
“Nothing has changed,” Holland said. “He’s hoping to be healthy for September. Next year’s training camp. I’m 99.9 percent sure Klef is not going to play in the 20-21 season.”
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So, guess we're waiting for the season to start to sign anyone else in order to maximize the LTIR from Klef being out.
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Arthritis? Ughh. That's not good as a chronic condition for someone who is what, 26 or 27? Surgery to remove bone spurs and growths, constant attention and I'm assuming meds to continue as a pro athlete. With arthritis, the shoulder is unstable by nature, can become brittle, and apart from mobility issues due to bony growth, there are also more than one muscle group that are affected in inflammation and unnatural compensation issues. That shouldn't be kicking in until the guy is in his 40s at least (speaking from the experience of a finely tuned sometime semi sorta not really athlete).
'Healthy for September'? Healthy? Pfft. I'd say Oscar's value is pretty much in the tank, hope I'm wrong.
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Oilers need to be actively looking for a #1 defenseman. It is far from certain we get that from Klefbom again, even if he doesn't retire.
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I don't think its possible to bring in a #1 dman. These guys don't move around that often and more times than not, you can only get them when they are past their prime and overprices. See Pietrangelo.
I think they will get that #1 internally. One of Broberg, Jones or Samorukov will surprise us is my prediction. I think Nurse settles into a really solid #2 dman starting this season.
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With the McDavid and Draistial clocks ticking, I don't think the Oilers have the luxury of waiting and hoping/wishing.
They should revisit the OEL talks. They don't move often, but they do move. And even if it is an overpay, given where the Oilers are now, it might be the time to pay premium in order to not waste the opportunity window of your more valuable assets.
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What for? First of all he would only allow a trade to 2 teams. Secondly, when the OEL talk came up, I kept hearing all these stats guys saying the numbers are showing he's hasn't been performing at a #1 dman level for some time now. So you'd be bringing on a going to be 30 yr old, way overpaid both in dollars at 8.25 and term at 6 more years, declining in play dman all to get maybe a marginal upgrade on Klefbom when he's healthy?
He makes 550K less than Pietrangelo and they aren't even close. A trade like that would be a disaster.
The Oilers defense last year was good enough for them to be first or second in the west all season, that was with having a less than healthy Klefbom, 2 guys who can't skate in Larsson and Benning and a severe lack of any kind of puck moving or offense. I don't think their defense is amazing but they have upgraded their speed and puck moving dramatically and brought in more offence and I don't think losing Klefbom will be as big of a loss as some do.
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You know what would be a disaster? McDavid and Draisaitl being first and second in league scoring and then being walked by a weak team in the first round of the playoffs. It's time for the Oilers to compete before you lose the league's two best players.
Even if they don't get a #1, they need a first pairing guy.
The Oilers weren't first or second in the west - they were second in the Pacific, arguably one of the weakest divisions in the NHL. When it came time to perform, they got exposed. This year, they likely are competing in a Canadian division.
It remains to be seen, but I think Nurse gets exposed a lot this year in his elevated role and the Oilers will realize too late that the Klefbom absence hurts them and can't be filled internally. I think Bear and Jones take steps forward, but they still are missing a key guy back there.
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I think it's completely foolish to make decisions about the team based on the 1.5 weeks of hockey they played in the play in. I get it, they sucked in that short stint. Teams go through bad stints of hockey and the Oilers picked the worst time to do it. I have a hard time picking out 5 guys on the Oilers that did well in that series.
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I guess we could also pick the season before where McDavid and Draisaitl were #1 and #2 in league scoring and the Oilers missed the playoffs if we want a larger sample size. Or the season before where they were 1st and 30th and missed the playoffs.
The forward depth has improved since then. The defense has some legitimate prospects in Bear and Jones (with Broberg and Bouchard). The defensive core (Klefbom, Larsson, Nurse, Russell) has remained largely the same.
Bear and Barrie are legitimate additions to the Top-4. Maybe Jones too. Not sure you would consider any of them top-pairing players. Maybe Bear.
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