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 Adam
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 June 2020 15:16 |
| Adam wrote on Thu, 25 June 2020 14:51 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 25 June 2020 14:29 |
Cam Neely is maybe more of a name. He was a really good player but I wouldn't call him a game changing, dominate player. He doesn't even have 1 cup. Probably best known for being Sea Bass in the movie Dumb and Dumber.
There are tons of guys who are real good players but are they guys who people go WOW. No.
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Cam Neely doesn't belong on your list. He was a dominant power forward, and scored just under a point a game (694 points in 726 games). He scored 50 goals in 50 games played - one of only 8 players who've been able to say that.
No Cups, but two trips to the Finals, and another to the semi-finals. Team accomplishments aren't a very good barometer. Marcel Dionne never won a Cup, Kevin Lowe won six of them. Who would you rather build a team around? Hell, Colin Fraser won three cups - does that make him anything but a fringe player?
Neely's numbers would have been better but that health issues cut his career short. He's in a similar category to Lindros, Forsberg, and Bure. All very good, all were only able to play between 700-800 games.
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That is your opinion that he doesn't deserve to be on my list, I don't share it. Maybe his numbers would have been better but staying healthy plays a factor in my books. He scored a good chunk of his goals and points in the 80's where scoring was crazy. NO denying he was a really, really good player but hall of famer? Pretty debatable. There was a time when Lindros and Forsberg were thought of as one of the best players in the league. Cam Neely was a really good player but I am 42, I remember when Neely player. There was never a time that I remember when Neely was regarded as one of the leagues absolute best players like the guys you listed.
Theo Fleury, a player as an Oilers fan I hated. 1088 pts in 1084 games. He score pretty much all of his points and goals in the 90's and early 2000's. The clutch and grab period. At his size, that's pretty freaking impressive and shows how good he was. I'd have him in over Neely personally. Off ice issues are keeping him out but given what that guy went through in junior, I kind of can see why.
Alex Mogilny. 473 goals, 1032 pts in 990 games. He was a really, really good player. I'd probably have him over Neely.
I don't have a problem with Neely being in there but as I said, there are lots of guys who I think is debatable for if they are worth or not. Is Kevin Lowe debatable. Sure he is.
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You're definitely allowed to be wrong.
Mogilny should be in the Hall of Fame. Fleury should probably eventually make that. They're both better than Lowe.
Neely was one of the best, and one of the most-feared players in the league of his time. He scored 50 goals in 44 games played in 1992-93. As mentioned, that is a pace that almost no one else, ever, has been able to maintain. Maybe you just don't remember the Bruins of the 80s much.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
#FireLowe #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky
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