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 Kr55
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| mightyreasoner wrote on Sun, 14 June 2020 01:35 |
| Kr55 wrote on Sat, 13 June 2020 14:09 |
Seeing some talk that Edmonton is pretty much out now as a potential hub city because of the change from 4 teams to 2. We have the nearby hotel, but because the NHL doubled the amount of teams per location, capacity becomes an issue here. We can't properly accommodate all the players/staff for 12 teams.
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We've got: JW Marriott, Westin, Fairmont... where else would you put them? Sutton Place? Courtyard by Marriott? Doubletree? A city wouldn't have to work hard to be those last three options.
I'm not sure that health is actually much of a priority for the NHL, but it was, it's conceivable we might lose it to Vancouver anyways.
Edmonton now up to 160 active cases (+97) from reopening on May 14th, and up from 44 active cases at the beginning of June. Vancouver Coastal Region is down to 80 active cases. Fraser Region has 105 active cases. From Whistler to Vancouver to Chilliwack, it's about 185 active cases. There's an argument to be made that Vancouver (especially downtown Vancouver) is a better destination to host at this point.
Look - it should be plenty clear by now that the NHL just doesn't want to come here.
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Here is a laid out reasoning from an article from the athletic. I guess they argue that teams would also not accept such a difference in hotel quality between the other options near the arena. Seems nitpicky, but maybe it's true:
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Vancouver: This is where the hotels come into play, giving Vancouver the edge over Edmonton. The JW Marriott in Edmonton has 346 rooms, not nearly enough to fit for 12 teams of 50 people each, plus NHL staff. With all due respect, the nearly by Delta and Westin are nice hotels, but not up to the quality of the JW. So how do you decide which teams go where?
Conversely, Vancouver is jam-packed with tremendous hotels and restaurants. The JW Marriott and Douglas Hotel, which is another Marriott property, are attached and right around the corner from Rogers Arena. They have 529 rooms, so the league would need another hotel to start. The Fairmont Pacific Rim, where many teams stay, has 377 rooms. Interestingly, the JW and Douglas are closed right now and there’s plenty of restaurants, a state-of-the-art gym and several banquet halls that could be turned into dining rooms and hospitality suites for teams. This is where the NHL held its GM’s meeting during the NHL Draft last summer.
Edmonton: As mentioned above, Edmonton was once a top candidate because of the incredible Rogers Place, attached practice rink and JW Marriott (attached by a skyway). But once the league went from four hub cities to two hub cities with 12 teams apiece, the hotel space at the JW is no longer sufficient.
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Our fault, shoulda subsidized an extra hotel build ;)
And for sure, this kind of decision making would make it abundantly clear that odds of getting COVID-19 into the NHL bubbles is way down the list, if decisions are being made because of fears teams will not accept being in a bit lower quality hotel than other teams. Basically already showing this too with the Vegas selection.
[Updated on: Sun, 14 June 2020 10:05]
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