 |
 Goose
Messages: 1098
Registered: October 2006
Location: Vancouver
1 Cup
|
|
| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 11 February 2020 08:25 |
| Goose wrote on Tue, 11 February 2020 09:16 |
| PlusOne wrote on Tue, 11 February 2020 07:31 |
Again, you are assuming that Nurse agrees that is his value and that no one else in the league would pay more.
We know that Nurse doesnt agree but dont about the rest of the league. That said, I am 90% sure that if Nurse was an FA he would get well over Morrisey. You continue to drop this 600K like it is fact and it simply isnt. Even if they went to arbitration the agent would bring in a long list of reasons that isnt perfect (even if it is) and higher paid, worse, players as his comparables. Now the Oilers get to list all the reasons Nurse isnt worth it? sounds like a great way to end the relationship poorly once that contract is over. At least with this contract there is a chance the Oilers can keep him after.
I do respect your opinion though as there is risk to this deal. One of the reasons I am ok with it is that I absolutely hate arbitration. It almost never ends well, and one of the side ends up super bitter while the other side is only kind of bitter.
|
I agree with Gator here, I think signing Nurse to a deal that's full value and takes him right up to UFA is crazy. People keep using Morrissey as a comparable, and that's fine if you want to talk about a long term deal, but they bought 6 UFA years with Morrissey, the Oilers got 0. A better comparable, imo, would be a contract like Werenski's that only buys RFA years. 3 years at $5M per for a guy that I think is a better player than Nurse today. And he still has a year of RFA once this contract expires. If Nurse wanted to only sign for 2 years than it should have been in the $4.5M range and if he doesn't than I would have taken him to arbitration.
Unless the Oilers plan on immediately trading Nurse, I dont understand how this makes any sense.
|
I'm thinking ~5M is where Nurse would end up with arbitration. And the Oilers may decide to make it 2 years. Then for sure he's done here, because you have to insult the player and argue why he's only worth the 3.5M you present to the arbitrator after Nurse's camp says 7.5M, hehe.
Actually, arbiration usually always just goes to the middle of both sides doesn't it? If Nurse says 7.5M, I guess we have to offer 2.5M :)
|
What's the alternative? Pay him $8M on a long term deal in 2 years? That's crazy. I guess what's bothering me about this is that all the signaling seems to be indicating to me that that is what they intend to do. If he was willing to sign for around $7M long-term, then why not do it now when you can include these 2 rfa years and maybe bring the cap hit in at slightly below $7M.
There's no reason to sign this deal today if you think you can make that happen. But if you think Nurse wants $8M+ and you dont think he's going to move off that number, then you sign this deal now to keep him happy and in 2 years when the cap has gone up and you've cleared out some dead space then you pay him what he wants.
And if you think he's going to get $8M but you aren't willing to go that high then you might as well bargain hard now to get him as cheap as possible for 2 years, because he won't be here after that anyways.
Oilers Goal Differential
17/18: 234 GF / 263 GA (-29)
18/19: 232 GF / 274 GA (-42)
19/20 (82 game pace): 257 GF / 254 GA (+3) in 64 games
2021 (82 game pace):269 GF / 235 GA (+34) after 38 games
|
|
|
|
Nurse extended 2 years @ 5.6AAV |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: JPro on Sun, 09 February 2020 18:15 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: g2k on Sun, 09 February 2020 18:29 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Gator21 on Sun, 09 February 2020 18:40 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Gator21 on Sun, 09 February 2020 20:12 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Gator21 on Sun, 09 February 2020 21:05 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Sun, 09 February 2020 22:17 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Kr55 on Sun, 09 February 2020 20:59 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: NetBOG on Sun, 09 February 2020 19:35 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Mullet on Sun, 09 February 2020 19:10 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Kr55 on Sun, 09 February 2020 20:54 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Kr55 on Sun, 09 February 2020 21:00 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Sun, 09 February 2020 22:02 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Sun, 09 February 2020 22:45 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Oiler76 on Mon, 10 February 2020 09:36 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: dkb19 on Sun, 09 February 2020 22:26 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Tue, 11 February 2020 10:28 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: K.McC#24 on Mon, 10 February 2020 12:04 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: K.McC#24 on Mon, 10 February 2020 12:26 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Mon, 10 February 2020 12:23 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: JPro on Mon, 10 February 2020 12:35 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Mon, 10 February 2020 12:40 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Gator21 on Mon, 10 February 2020 17:40 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Mon, 10 February 2020 18:01 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: PlusOne on Mon, 10 February 2020 18:35 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Gator21 on Mon, 10 February 2020 18:54 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
|
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Gator21 on Mon, 10 February 2020 19:39 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Mon, 10 February 2020 21:53 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Gator21 on Mon, 10 February 2020 23:18 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Mon, 10 February 2020 21:52 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: PlusOne on Tue, 11 February 2020 08:31 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Goose on Tue, 11 February 2020 09:16 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Kr55 on Tue, 11 February 2020 09:25 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Goose on Tue, 11 February 2020 10:10 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Tue, 11 February 2020 10:33 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Goose on Tue, 11 February 2020 10:42 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Tue, 11 February 2020 10:47 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Goose on Tue, 11 February 2020 10:58 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Adam on Tue, 11 February 2020 11:11 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: Kr55 on Tue, 11 February 2020 10:34 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years |
By: PlusOne on Tue, 11 February 2020 10:10 |
|
Re: Nurse extended 2 years @ 5.6AAV |
|
