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Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur [message #752239 is a reply to message #752219 ]	Thu, 23 January 2020 16:08

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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 23 January 2020 08:19

inverno76 wrote on Wed, 22 January 2020 18:53

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 22 January 2020 16:31

The question I have is could the Oilers do anything even if they wanted too? The league suspended him immediately for 5 games. The Oilers organization support it. They made a statement. They could just not dress him for the rest of the year and I don't think anyone can do anything about it. All they have to do is say coaches decision for who he wants to play. But if they decided we want to set an example and suspend him more, would they even be allowed?

I am guessing they can't terminate his contract or suspend him with no pay because the Union would grieve it.

If the Kings could try and terminate Mike Richard’s contract for smuggling pills for personal use, that really only reflects on the individual, then I think the Oilers could react to the racial slur. The comment resonates with many minorities. I know I’d face a possible termination if my job if I used a racial slur against someone. We have a conduct code and I imagine the NHL has one worked into every standard contract.

I don’t think many people would support Manning if he was fired. The NHLPA would likely fight for job if he were terminated and would likely accept a team suspension as an alternate punishment.

I think the Richards situation is a little different because I believe he was caught at the border trying to smuggle in pills which is a criminal offense. Maybe it wasn't a major crime but it was still breaking the law. Manning calling someone a name, even though he shouldn't be doing that isn't going to land you in jail.

There's lots the Oilers can do. As we've seen this year, most contracts in the NHL do have some level of morality clause. If you feel the player/coach/executive has done something to bring the franchise in to disrepute, then you may be able to activate that escape hatch.

That has some really tricky challenges to it.
1) The dollars are significant to the player, so he's going to lawyer up and you're going to fight over that - and likely settle. It will cost you time, money and effort and if it ends up escalating, it would be a public black eye to litigate this.
2) More importantly, and the reason the team won't consider trying to void the contract - as CrudeRemarks said - that would set a precedent and then if some actual good player does something similar at some point in the future, it would make the team look completely hypocritical if they didn't take the same action. It would very quickly look like the only reason this happened was because it was a bad player on a bad contract who said it and the team was looking for a way to save a little money. This would of course be the argument from the lawyer if you tried to release Manning too - he'd say that the team was looking for an excuse and this isn't related at all to the incident and rather is instead a cynical attempt to shirk responsibility for taking on a bad contract.

The lawyer would have a point too. I pretty much guarantee that if this was Leon Draisaitl or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins who'd said this that the comments would be significantly different in here and there'd be more permissiveness for a moment of bad judgement.

That said, there are lots of things the Oilers can still do here. They could demote Manning to the ECHL, or try to find another AHL team to lend him away to, basically banishing him from the organization. If they were to do this, I expect they'd do the smart thing and deny that this incident had anything to do with that decision, it's just where the organization and the player are at. The team has a lot of valuable young defencemen who it wants to see develop and so they don't have room for a declining depth defenceman and so they're just trying to find a better place for him to play.

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Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: smyth260 on Tue, 21 January 2020 14:01
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: CrudeRemarks on Tue, 21 January 2020 14:05
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: GabbyDugan on Tue, 21 January 2020 14:21
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Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 21 January 2020 14:40
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Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: GabbyDugan on Tue, 21 January 2020 15:46
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Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: Ragnarok73 on Tue, 21 January 2020 15:25
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: inverno76 on Tue, 21 January 2020 15:27
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Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 21 January 2020 16:28
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: Oscargasm on Tue, 21 January 2020 16:31
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: CrudeRemarks on Tue, 21 January 2020 16:45
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: Kr55 on Wed, 22 January 2020 10:51
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: smyth260 on Wed, 22 January 2020 16:09
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 22 January 2020 16:31
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: inverno76 on Wed, 22 January 2020 18:53
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 22 January 2020 19:22
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: inverno76 on Wed, 22 January 2020 20:13
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 23 January 2020 08:19
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: Adam on Thu, 23 January 2020 16:08
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 23 January 2020 16:26
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: Adam on Thu, 23 January 2020 16:49
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 23 January 2020 17:18
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: Kr55 on Thu, 23 January 2020 18:22
Re: Manning Suspended 5 AHL Games for Racial Slur	By: smyth260 on Sat, 08 February 2020 15:19
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