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Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48) [message #751778 is a reply to message #751773 ]	Thu, 16 January 2020 16:41

Kr55
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CrudeRemarks wrote on Thu, 16 January 2020 15:26

smyth260 wrote on Thu, 16 January 2020 13:32

Regarding contracts, I don't really place any blame on anyone.

I think it's important to get paid what you are worth. In those years, Edmonton was in a scenario where:

1) Smyth wanted to play in Edmonton AND have some financial security
2) Edmonton was not in any position to hand out dollars

Under those conditions, it makes sense that the contracts took a long time to hash out. They got done. That is all that matters to me. Except for one time.

Smyth wanted 5.5M a year, Oilers would only go to 5.4M and thus he would move on to Colorado for 6.25M AAV in the summer. I'd venture to say that he was willing to give a discount from market value (he left 3.75M on the table the Oilers signed his ask of 5.5Mx5). It just wasn't enough for Kevin Lowe. And that's fine. It was a terrible terrible day for me as a kid, but sometimes two sides just can't come together at a moment in time.

I tend not to think less of any player for trying to get the most they can. I don't think less of Drew Doughty for negotiating without an agent. I don't think less of Mitch Marner for squeezing every dollar he could out of Toronto, or Nylander for holding out during the season. Your hockey career has a shelf life. One that could be ended at any time by a major injury or whatever. Get what you can while you can. It's up to the team to convince you otherwise.

Regarding his roles and attitudes. I don't know what to say really. We are human beings. We react with emotions often. He cried at the airport more than any athlete I have ever seen...he is clearly a pretty sensitive guy. I'm not going to let a few quotes about being scratched get in the way of what I witnessed on the ice. Worth noting that Ryan Whitney also complained about Ralph Krueger basically telling him that he wasn't going to move up the lineup no matter what. Maybe Smyth had similar feelings but less articulate? I don't know, I don't want to go too deep into that.

#RETIRE94

I prefer doug weight. look at Smyth's production drop-off in 1998-99 when Weight only played 43 games. Then Weight leaves and the two years before Hemsky arrives there's a big drop off too.

But I understand, if your name is Smyth260, you're gonna lean towards 94.

To me, the appeal of Smyth was all about his love of hockey and work ethic. His production may have gone up and down, but regardless, the dude was still giving his all. The quality of linemates shifted for sure over his years. He still managed 61 points in 66 games with our 2nd highest scorer being Todd Marchant.

And I enjoy giving him a pass about the contract stuff. Lowe is an abrasive a-hole. Smyth is a simple dude that probably put complete trust in his agent. Who knows how those talks could have broken down with Lowe's spite and Smyth getting questionable advice. It's a shame, but, if it did happen the way it did, we may not have got a lot of pieces for Rebuild #1 :) What a shame that would have been.

"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013

"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015

5 x $5,000,000

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Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: OilFans on Tue, 14 January 2020 21:30
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Ragnarok73 on Tue, 14 January 2020 21:37
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Oscargasm on Tue, 14 January 2020 21:41
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Oscargasm on Tue, 14 January 2020 21:51
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Kr55 on Tue, 14 January 2020 22:23
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Adam on Wed, 15 January 2020 11:21
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 15 January 2020 11:35
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Oscargasm on Wed, 15 January 2020 13:22
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Gator21 on Wed, 15 January 2020 20:46
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Oscargasm on Wed, 15 January 2020 21:11
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: CrudeRemarks on Thu, 16 January 2020 06:39
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Adam on Thu, 16 January 2020 11:51
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 16 January 2020 12:39
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: smyth260 on Thu, 16 January 2020 12:47
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Adam on Thu, 16 January 2020 13:07
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: smyth260 on Thu, 16 January 2020 13:32
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: CrudeRemarks on Thu, 16 January 2020 15:26
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Kr55 on Thu, 16 January 2020 16:41
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: smyth260 on Thu, 16 January 2020 16:55
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Adam on Thu, 16 January 2020 17:03
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 16 January 2020 19:44
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Kr55 on Thu, 16 January 2020 20:32
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Adam on Fri, 17 January 2020 09:29
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Kr55 on Fri, 17 January 2020 09:58
Re: Review: Nashville @ Edmonton (Game #48)	By: Kr55 on Thu, 16 January 2020 16:57

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