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Kr55 wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 10:51 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 10:45 |
Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 10:35 |
Adam wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 09:30 |
RDOilerfan wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 09:20 |
Rocksteady wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 09:02 |
jerekybeef wrote on Fri, 25 October 2019 01:59 | Brutal bottom 6. As the season grinds on, they will falter badly unless the bottom 6 can do anything positive besides warm the bench. Depth has been a huge factor for this team for years. Pretty dismal bunch aside from the top 2 lines. That’s Holland’s quest this year
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One of 97 or 29 get hurt this team is in severe trouble.
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Your comment isn't wrong but name me a team in this league who can just roll along no problem when they lose a true star player? I would say there are a few teams like say a Nashville, maybe Vegas who don't have a true superstar, just a bunch of good players who might be OK if they lost one of their better players but there aren't very many.
Leafs lost Tavares and they have lost 2 in a row, are 5-4-2 so technically below .500 and they have more forward depth than the Oilers.
Pens lost Malkin. Treaded water for a bit. They are 6-5 and have lost 3 in a row.
Colorado just lost Rantanen. Not sure how long he will be out but it's week to week. They lost the game he went down. We will see how well they do without him.
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I think the point is, no team relies on its stars as much as the Oilers do.
Most of the Cup winners and Cup finalists will have strong third lines, and fourth lines that AT LEAST chip in occasionally. The Blues had Steen on their fourth line last year - a pretty solid player.
The balance with the Oilers is so skewed, that if one of our pinnacle guys goes down, we lose a massive percentage of our offence and we need to fill 25 minutes a night of ice time. Rantanen, Tavares - those are big losses for their teams. But they aren't anything close to what it would be if the Oilers lost one of their stars.
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Adam nails the point of my post. Where close to 90-95% of your offense is tied up in 2 players to at least generate a chance you're in deep trouble. Our bottom 6 need to chip in at least 10% of our points and that's being modest.
It doesn't look good here. Granlund, Archibald, Chaisson, even Gagner needs to chip stuff in. They cannot be out there just to give the top line a rest every now and again.
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Did you expect this team given where the idiot previous GM left it, to be any better depth wise? Chia gutted the depth. He traded a decent 3rd line center in Strome for a guy who can't play in the NHL. He traded a decent bottom 6 winger in Caggulia for a dman who probably at best and I might be high, plays 15 games a season for any team. Some teams none. The Oilers 3rd line should probably be:
Caggulia - Strome - whoever.
That wouldn't be a horrible 3rd line. All Chia had to do was NOTHING and his team would have been better off last season. Chia would have been better off just to trade Strome and Caggulia for picks. At least then the Oilers wouldn't have 3.15 in Gagner and 2.2 in Manning to deal with. I don't care who's the GM, you don't recover from trades that bad in 1 offseason.
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The lack of a 3rd C with any playmaking ability is probably where everything falls apart in the bottom 6. You have some guys that may be able to bang home 5-10 goals a season with the help of some bounces, but there is zero playmaking skill in the bottom 6 group to generate any chaos that could lead to those bounces happening. Gagner is probably the closest you have to that kind of player, but he'll forever be terrible defensively and I don't think Tippett trusts him to play 3C.
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I agree. They had that in Strome but Chia traded him for Spooner who can't play in the NHL. Supposedly even the coaching staff told Chia not to do it and he didn't listen.
I don't think Holland was going to get that guy this offseason. The list was WAY, WAY too long for him. Just not enough money. Gagner is making the money you pay your 3rd line center. I wonder if we see Holland make a move for one at some point. A guy like Pageau out of Ottawa. Ottawa loves him but he's a UFA so I wonder if they would look to get assets back.
[Updated on: Fri, 25 October 2019 11:17]
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