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Adam Messages: 6828
Registered: August 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 29 August 2019 11:15 |
It's amazing to me how many excuses you can come up for JP and how you sluff off the fact that YES a team is responsible for developing a player but it's up to the player to do it. If he doesn't train properly or in the case of JP, go to English classes or whatever else they are told to do, he's not going to develop no matter how good a team is at development. A team can only do so much. Did the Oilers screw up, yes they did. None of that is being denied. But how a player turns out is not solely the result of that a team does. A player and what he does is plays a MASSIVE role in where he ends up.
There are TONS of junior aged players every year who look absolutely dominate in junior, you tear up the World Juniors and amount to squat once they hit the pros. Don't believe me, look at the list of guys you posted. What's Nylander done? He was tied with Aho. He's not even an NHLer yet. What's Malgin done? What's Juolevi done? Again, another NON NHLer.He hasn't even made the NHL yet. If you want to ignore what I pointed out with your little chart, then go look at the roster of pretty much EVERY Canadian University team and they are littered with really, really high scoring, good CHL players who where some of the best players on their junior team, probably were the center of wingman of NHLers who didn't get a sniff at the NHL and won't ever get a sniff.
JP had a great tournament. GREAT!! It doesn't mean squat if you can't translate it to the next level.
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Where, pray tell, did I give any excuses for Puljujarvi?
I believe my whole post was about the fact that the was a top-5 pick and that that wasn't a mistake given the information available at the time.
There IS a responsibility on the player and the team to the player's development. No one gets a pass on this. However, I think it should be more surprising that the team fails to live up to their side than the teenager. After all, they've done this all before, they're not just one adult but a whole group of adults getting paid to develop players. When you have a team that struggles with development like the Oilers do, where there's been MULTIPLE complaints about the kids "not getting it" or "not buying in" and team execs at a complete loss on how to handle it...well, maybe it's a team issue.
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men, you just can't reach.So you get what we had here last week -- which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it anymore than you men.
"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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