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 Kr55
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Registered: May 2002
Location: Edmonton
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| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 27 August 2019 16:52 |
| RDOilerfan wrote on Tue, 27 August 2019 16:43 |
| Kr55 wrote on Tue, 27 August 2019 16:30 |
| CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 27 August 2019 16:02 |
Has anyone considered the possibility that leaving Edmonton is what's best for the player? Like maybe he isn't an idiot who is getting bad advice?
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He's done nothing in the NHL yet. Kinda lame to try to be picky at this point or to think he's some kind of expert on coaching/management. I don't think it's about the coaching/management though personally. He's revealed to his teammates he is an immature goof with some entitlement issues. If he came back and played well, I'm sure it would be no issue and anything before would be water under the bridge, but I wouldn't blame him for doubting he can manage that this year coming off surgery and having no confidence in his ability to play in the NHL.
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I agree completely. He's done nothing in the NHL. What I would like to know is how much is really on the Oilers and how much is on JP? I have said many times that the Oilers screwed up developing him. He needed to stay in Finland his 18 yr old year, then spend at least 1 year in the AHL, potentially 2 years in the AHL. Then maybe he could be a top 9 NHL forward. That's a big maybe.
But there was a time when he was ranked higher than Laine and they were neck and neck pretty much right to the draft. Laine stepped right into the NHL at 18, so he got zero development time. He scored 36 goals that first year and has 110 goals in 3 years. JP has 17 goals in 3 years. JP was neck and neck with Laine. How can that be? So there is no way it is all on the Oilers. So I would love to know how much is on both side. If the Oilers developed JP properly and he spent at least 2, maybe 3 years not in the NHL. Does anyone seriously think JP steps into the NHL and scores 36 goals like Laine did that first year? No way.
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You're both confusing the issue. It doesn't necessarily matter if he's done nothing in the NHL *if* he simply needs out of Edmonton. The possibility exists, that this played out exactly as he wants, to the benefit of the player.
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This was all some 4D chess by Pulju, to play bad so he at best gets a crap contract after his ELC, and looks like an entitled little baby that has accomplished nothing so far in the NHL and is worth a 3rd round pick at best so he has to play in Europe for 200-300k in his 4th pro season? It is pretty impressive if this all went according to plan.
Sigh...in the end, this all would have been so much easier if the kid was actually good at hockey. Will be a bummer if he has a mediocre season in the Fin league, but at least a step closer to not having to care about him anymore.
[Updated on: Tue, 27 August 2019 17:48]
"We need to get better immediately. That starts today"
- Lowe, 2013
"Next year I would forecast as another developmental year"
- MacT, 2015
5 x $5,000,000
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