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Re: James Neal for Lucic trade [message #740786 is a reply to message #740785 ]	Mon, 22 July 2019 08:17

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Magnum wrote on Mon, 22 July 2019 07:49

Is Lucic more tradable now?

He carries a lower cap hit and could be accompanied by a third round pick, without cost to the Flames.

If I was Treliving, I'd be looking for a this type of opportunity, like Kevin Lowe looking for an opportunity to tell someone that he won 6 cups.

The Flames honored Lucic's no move so he'd have to waive it to get traded again. I read that apparently a bunch of Flames had to call Lucic including Iginla to convince him to waive which blows my mind. It wasn't like the Flames are a crap team. So to me that gives me insight into his mindset and probably why it didn't work in Edmonton. He spent his whole career in a major US market (Boston, LA) where hockey is popular but not the big dog. So when he was crap, he could just disappear. There wasn't the media attention, there wasn't the fan attention and there wasn't multiple sport talk shows that talk hockey 365 days a year to talk about how crappy he has been every day. So he couldn't handle it and mailed it in. On top of that, he's arrogant and didn't want to make changes to how he played and trained to match what was happening in Calgary.

I don't see how it will change much in Calgary. I listen to Calgary radio and the media is just as ruthless as Edmonton. They talk Flames everyday. The fans aren't quite as passionate as Oilers but pretty close. If you as a player aren't performing, they seek you out to destroy you. They even do it to players doing well (Hamiltion was hated for being "soft" even though he produced). So maybe the expectations for Lucic aren't as high. In Edmonton, most fans just wanted him to do what he always did. Be that big physical, nasty guy who hovered around 20 goals, 45-50 pts, just like he did for 8 years in a row in Boston and LA. In Calgary, he just has to be big, nasty, physical and produce at a 3rd liner pace. But when he goes on a 20-30 game goalless drought, they will crush him.

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