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Re: James Neal for Lucic trade [message #740709 is a reply to message #740704 ]	Fri, 19 July 2019 16:38

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inverno76 wrote on Fri, 19 July 2019 16:31

Adam wrote on Fri, 19 July 2019 16:27

inverno76 wrote on Fri, 19 July 2019 16:16

Adam wrote on Fri, 19 July 2019 16:08

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 19 July 2019 15:08

Magnum wrote on Fri, 19 July 2019 14:57

Kr55 wrote on Fri, 19 July 2019 14:38

Ryan Rishaug @TSNRyanRishaug
Sounds like the NMC paperwork and the trade call are still to be completed. Not positive it gets officially completed today.

The NMC documents are probably in a vault in a 3rd world country in the middle of a war zone. Chia conceded doing that in negotiations to make trading Lucic even more difficult.

If there is more than $500K held back in salary that’ll be loss.

Didn't catch it myself, but sounds like Bob McKenzie said it's 125k/year retention to even the cap hits out. Both guys end up costing 5.875M

Okay - now what's the pick? That's the last piece here we need to know.

So far, this is all good news...if that's a first round pick, then less so!

Even a 2nd and I’m leery. We are from a playoff team.

What worries me is that it's apparently conditional. I could see that being a first with the ability to push it back a year if it looks like we're going to have a really high pick again. Not sure what a different condition could be - we give them an upgraded pick if we buy out Neal? It also makes sense with the Oilers sitting on this information all day while freely handing out the information that will make everyone happy...

We can’t even consider another buyout. This dead money is approaching a Lucic contract.

Neal is a MUCH better buyout. No signing bonuses, so he's just a $1.9MM cap hit for 8 years (6 years if this happens next year). The actual dollars suck, but that's fine. It's not you or me that pay them.

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	
2019-20	$5,750,000	$5,750,000	$0	$1,916,667	$1,916,667	$3,833,333	$1,916,667
2020-21	$5,750,000	$5,750,000	$0	$1,916,667	$1,916,667	$3,833,333	$1,916,667
2021-22	$5,750,000	$5,750,000	$0	$1,916,667	$1,916,667	$3,833,333	$1,916,667
2022-23	$5,750,000	$5,750,000	$0	$1,916,667	$1,916,667	$3,833,333	$1,916,667
2023-24	$0	$0	$0	$1,916,667	$1,916,667	-$1,916,667	$1,916,667
2024-25	$0	$0	$0	$1,916,667	$1,916,667	-$1,916,667	$1,916,667
2025-26	$0	$0	$0	$1,916,667	$1,916,667	-$1,916,667	$1,916,667
2026-27	$0	$0	$0	$1,916,667	$1,916,667	-$1,916,667	$1,916,667
TOTAL	$23,000,000	$23,000,000	$0	$15,333,333	$15,333,333	$7,666,667	$15,333,336

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/james-neal#res ults

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