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Re: Oilers signed Archibald [message #740599 is a reply to message #740593 ]	Wed, 17 July 2019 14:03

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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 13:47

CrusaderPi wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 13:38

CrudeRemarks wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 13:33

RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 12:40

I am not sticking my head in the sand Adam. Please do not decide you know exactly how I think. You don't know me what so ever. Am I happy at what has happened, no, I am not happy at all. It's frustrating as hell. But it's a freaking pro sports team, it's not life or death here. It's not personal. The team hasn't wronged any of us or me. They didn't sleep with my wife for god sake. It's entertainment. If the Oilers don't win a game as much as I want them to win them all, no one gets hurt or dies in my life. When the day comes that I am as miserable and negative over a freaking sports team, is the day I step away.

Serious question and this is in no way me trying to be a jerk. If you have no confidence what so ever that the team, the owner, the organization or whoever else will ever get better, why bother watching them or coming here to comment on them? Everyone is entitled to an opinion but if all you expect is the worst, then why bother. If it was me, I would just walk away and save myself the frustration.

I saw a speaker at a conference recently who talked about Epic Stories. The idea is that most epic stories have a formula. Hero/underdog (Frodo, Harry Potter, Luke Skywalker), trusted companions (Sam/the ginger kid/Han solo), a mentor figure (Gandalf, dumbledore, obiwan), a nemesis (Sauron/Voldemort/darth Vader) and some sort of quest. Naturally this translates into sports very well. The players are the heroes, opposing teams are the enemy, the coach is the mentor and the quest is for the cup. We, the fans, are a part of the story because we are the trusted companions. The guy’s name was Steve Donahue. It was a decent presentation.

In the case of Oiler fans, our hero is closer to the Black Knight from Monty Python. Incapable and unaware of his own incompetence. The nemesis owns the organization and his evil henchmen are its managers. We can’t find a mentor with an idea better than getting rid of donuts and the quest is so far out of reach that we can’t talk about it with a straight face. But trusted companions don’t abandon the hero. They just develop a fatalistic and deeply sarcastic attitude and comment on web forums.

I stopped buying tickets and merchandise too. I'm contributing!

I have been buying mini packs of tickets for a very long time. My advance window was today. I used to get them with some other guys. The one guy I went with last year didn't want to buy so I bought 2 tickets for a 4 game pack for my family. My wife will take each one of our boys to a game, I will take each one of our boys to a game. She's excited, my boys are excited, I am excited. I don't think that makes me a bad person because I buy tickets which in turn support the Oilers. We want them to win all the games we go too but we get enjoyment out of going no matter what which is the main point.

Alright, again I don't have even close to the time needed for this response, but I'll do what I can in the time available.

As with CrusaderPi, I enjoy talking about hockey...even when the hockey is bad, and the team is bad and there's little signs of hope on the horizon. McDavid's fun to watch too and I'll be really upset the day he asks to leave.

I do feel a bit wronged by the team...the fixes to me are so obvious, the mistakes so glaring that it feels like we're being robbed of some really good times here simply through sheer incompetence, and then unwillingness by the owner to let his incompetent buddies go. I don't lose sleep about it...at least, not often. I was extremely angry the week that we traded Hall and signed Lucic and Gustavsson. It was all so clearly bad that it frustrated me to think that anyone could have thought that was a path to success.

I'm rarely that frustrated though...usually I'm always able to comfort myself that the team proves me right again and again and again. I can predict the future with the team, and while I'd rather be starkly wrong and see the team succeed, they don't put themselves in a position to succeed so you don't have to be Nostradamus to read the tea leaves. Accurately forecasting the Paul Coffey hire was a little bit freaky though...I'll have to admit.

I care pretty deeply about the Oilers - they have meant a lot to me since I was a little boy. It sucks to see these guys screw it up for two decades and have no consequences for that. It's sad that so many people I knew who WERE die-hards have lost the passion for it, because the team is always bad. I'd really like to see them better, and the sad thing is, being better wouldn't be that hard. Most of the posters in here could have done a better job managing the team than these clowns.

Don't be ashamed of buying tickets. Support and cheer for the team however you want. But also, I think you should understand that anger and disappointment and disillusionment about these screw-ups and their mismanagement of our favourite team are totally valid emotions and that people SHOULD be able to feel and express those. If you don't like seeing that? Either hope for change within the organization - because on-ice success doesn't come without it - or don't pay attention or respond to people expressing those things.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
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Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Tue, 16 July 2019 10:08
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Kr55 on Tue, 16 July 2019 10:11
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Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Adam on Wed, 17 July 2019 09:17
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Kr55 on Wed, 17 July 2019 09:22
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 09:37
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Adam on Wed, 17 July 2019 10:05
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Kr55 on Wed, 17 July 2019 10:37
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 10:40
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Kr55 on Wed, 17 July 2019 10:46
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 10:54
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Adam on Wed, 17 July 2019 11:04
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 11:11
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Kr55 on Wed, 17 July 2019 11:15
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 11:17
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 17 July 2019 11:31
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 11:41
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Adam on Wed, 17 July 2019 12:04
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 12:40
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 17 July 2019 12:52
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 13:00
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 17 July 2019 13:08
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 17 July 2019 13:33
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: CrusaderPi on Wed, 17 July 2019 13:38
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 13:47
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Kr55 on Wed, 17 July 2019 13:57
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 17 July 2019 14:03
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: CrudeRemarks on Wed, 17 July 2019 14:01
Re: Oilers signed Archibald	By: Adam on Wed, 17 July 2019 14:03
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