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RDOilerfan wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 10:40

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 10:37

Adam wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 10:05

Kr55 wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 09:22

Adam wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 09:17

Rocksteady wrote on Wed, 17 July 2019 09:12

So... is the strategy to sign whatever you can bottom 6'ers to see if one of them can rise up to be in a top 6 role?

...or is it the hope?!

It's the hope isn't it? Yeah... hope.


As mightyreasoner's suggested, Holland's strategy seems to mirror the one MacTavish had to corner the market on third pairing defencemen. I'm sure it will work just as well.


Based on Young Willis' work, this appears to be another attempt to bolster the PK group. Archibald had good PK results with the Coyotes.

Overall, I think the whole org puts a lot of blame on how bad the bottom 6 was last year. Hitch touched on their lack of compete many times last season, and I'm sure he continues to put that point home as an adviser.

All we are getting this year is an attempt to bump the speed and "compete" level of our bottom 6, a fresh new look from coaching, and we pray it's enough to battle for a wildcard spot.

Then next summer, we bring back Hall :) Anyone been listening to Stauffer trying to hint almost every day at a Hall return? lol.


I think it's a stretch to think Hall would come back. It's not like the organization has made big changes. The Old Boys are still in control. Lowe and Gretzky and Howson all were there to bless dealing him away, and they all are there to bless the next idiotic move. He probably would still have to have Glenn Anderson and other 1980s Oilers hanging around team parties.

And the team is still not good, so it's not like he's coming to a team on the cusp of a championship. Also we gave his number to a third pairing defenceman...


Well, clearly you are not listening to enough Stauffer!

The tone is usually about unfinished business :)

They couldn't afford him. Pretending they could magically get rid of Lucic's 6 mill, what's Hall going to sign for 10? Maybe more. Skinner got 9 mill, Hall's a better player than Skinner. I think it's pretty clear that Leon's contract is fine. But even if someone wants to die on the hill that says he's overpaid. Shave off 1 mill. That still means combined Leon and McDavid would be making 20 mill. Add on a conservative 10 mill for Hall. That's 30 mill for 3 players. If the cap is just over 80 mill, pretty tough to win with that much money tied up in 3 guys.


Would certainly need to plan for such a move. Only signing guys to short term deals right now. If you wait until the next Lucic bonus, he is owed 10M more for 3 years with an 18M cap hit. Russell would need to be dumped. Those 2 alone are 10M.

Hard to win with 30M tied up in mcdavid/Drai/Lucic/Russell too :) Probably harder than McDavid/Dria/someone that actually can do elite things.



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