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Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet [message #760157 is a reply to message #760136 ]	Wed, 13 May 2020 00:28

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CrusaderPi wrote on Tue, 12 May 2020 15:10

Adam wrote on Tue, 12 May 2020 14:36

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 May 2020 17:12

Adam wrote on Mon, 11 May 2020 15:11

CrusaderPi wrote on Mon, 11 May 2020 14:06

Ufa, the Edmonton of Russia.

I won't remember this name played for the Oilers in 3 years.

It'll be interesting to see how these kind of signings work if the NHL returns to action in late summer...

The NHL - NHLPA Collective Agreement is an absolute mess. The only CBA, I can think of, that's worse is Canada Post's. You can have a pocket dictionary, but you could never make a pocket Post CBA. It's stoopid with a capital K. To have labour peace the company and union absolutely NEEDS flexibility to work through issues. /soapbox

The standard player contract seems to end on the later of June 15th or 48 hours after the the Cup is awarded, but there is a clause that allows the season to be ended by formal cancellation of the season (or league) which would end this year of the contract. I'm not sure there's a way to hold players in limbo (meaning: keeping them in the 2019-20 year of the contract) by extending the season beyond June without a massively complicated waiver being issued by the association.

There would have to be an agreement by the Players' Association to extend all contracts. Obviously the carrot is the escrowed money because right now the players are all forfeiting a HUGE amount of their salary - maybe as much as 25%. But for an individual player who wasn't making that much, and who may not get much benefit from coming back...I could see some people stepping away, especially in the case of someone like Granlund where he doesn't intend to play in the NHL next year.

If the players agree to comeback to finish the season, and that's a big if, I don't think it saves them any money in escrow this or the cap for next year. The gate revenue for the last ~12 games is already lost, playoffs are probably a net expense now because they won't get a gate, and a time extension in this season might cause a drop in revenue for 2020-21 if anything in next season gets delayed or canceled.

The best solution might be an august training camp, a compressed 6 week playoff in September, followed by a ~5 day player trade / transfer / free agent period, and right into the 2020-21 season. But holy heck is that complicated to pull off... even if wave 2 doesn't come. If I'm a union person though I need a lot of concessions to guard against a salary cap drop, playoff injuries, lack of time to make summer deals, and a myriad of other problems otherwise it's probably better for the players to cancel 2019-20, which is probably the best solution for the owners and league too.

There's an x-factor here though - the biggest expense, as you say, is player's salary, but players only get paid nominally for playoffs. The NHL would rather play playoffs - even in the fall next year, than regular season because they get greater revenue and less expenses. That would normally be a non-starter for players but for the escrow - if the NHL makes back enough money in the playoffs (and with the future TV deal in the US coming up) then players get more of their escrowed money back (and possibly an increased cap and more money in later years).

I do think you're right - regular season games get too expensive to play pretty fast if you can't rely on gate & concession & parking revenue. But playoffs is a bit of a different animal.

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Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: GabbyDugan on Mon, 01 July 2019 08:23
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: mightyreasoner on Mon, 01 July 2019 09:12
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: Kr55 on Mon, 01 July 2019 09:21
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: Burgeoboy on Mon, 01 July 2019 09:21
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: Gator21 on Mon, 11 May 2020 13:32
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 11 May 2020 14:06
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: Adam on Mon, 11 May 2020 15:11
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: CrusaderPi on Mon, 11 May 2020 17:12
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: Adam on Tue, 12 May 2020 14:36
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 12 May 2020 15:10
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: CrudeRemarks on Tue, 12 May 2020 15:13
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: CrusaderPi on Tue, 12 May 2020 15:33
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: Adam on Wed, 13 May 2020 00:28
Re: Markus Granlund an Oiler, per Sportsnet	By: steve.kreys on Tue, 16 June 2020 16:56

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