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Re: Oilers select 1st rd (#8) - Philip Broberg [message #739325 is a reply to message #739229 ]	Mon, 24 June 2019 08:48

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nullterm wrote on Fri, 21 June 2019 21:39

I see some negatively to the pick. Why so? /open can of worms

I think the negativity comes down to a couple of items:

1) Did the Oilers pick the best player available? If they picked for position, it's crazy that they'd pick a left d-man as we have an awful lot of them. Best player available should always be the default, so if he really was better than everyone else, then so be it, but he wasn't 8th on almost any pre-draft ranking, so this is the Oilers believing they know better than others. Here's a consolidation of 14 draft rankings:

https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/nhl-entry-draft-picks-201 9/2019/6/21/18692160/2019-nhl-draft-rankings-consensus-hughe s-kakko-bob-mckenzie-athletic-hockey-prospects

Zegras is 5th, Broberg is 14th. Pre-draft rankings aren't gospel by any means, but I don't think there's a lot of reasons to trust the Oilers to get this right. The team hasn't done that well at outsmarting the league historically.

But we have Ken Holland now! He drafted Zetterberg and Datsyuk! All that is true - but look at the Red Wings draft record since 2009:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00005492.html

Thomas Tatar is the most capped player in that time (to borrow a soccer term). Dylan Larkin is the best player. The rest? It's pretty damn bleak.

And what about Keith Gretzky?! Well, we saw Keith go off the board with a hunch (maybe three hunches, depending on who you believe) in 2015 and Boston missed out on Chabot, Connor and Barzal for Debrusk and two no-names.

I'd have preferred the team to take the more conventional pick. As a bonus, they'd be bolstering an area of organizational weakness, as the cupboards are pretty bare at forward.

2) I HATE that the team spent the weak ahead of the draft trying to condition fans to this pick and to set expectations. If you're going to fly against consensus, then you're better to be quiet about it and just deal with the fall-out when it happens. The chances of trading back drop significantly when everyone in the league knows who you want, because every talking head in hockey has heard directly from someone in the Oilers organization that they plan to pick Broberg.

Management still believes that the most important thing is to manage the expectations of their fanbase...that's a major cause for concern, and a contributing factor in their never-ending failure.

If they have to swim against the current, they should do it without any attempt to placate the market ahead of time. Let the results speak for themselves. I think about the scene in Moneyball where Billy Beane is listening to the fans rip him on the radio - managers need thick skins, and you need enough confidence in your path that you will suffer those slings and arrows. If you don't have that? Then maybe you should stick to the more conventional path...or let someone else lead the team.

"Thinking that a bad team's best players are the reason the team is bad is the "Tambellini re-signing Lennart Petrell" of sports opinions." @Woodguy55
~~#FireLowe~~ #FireBobbyNicks #FireKenHolland #FireKeithGretzky

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